NetJets Strike Vote Fails

[CMHTroll]

Why is OS still booking 7 people on an X from CRQ to TEB...non-stop, when the temp is 90 degrees?

Why are they booking 5 people on an XL from LAX to CLT... NON-STOP?

Why are they booking 8 people on an XL when it only has 7 seats?

Those are good questions. Did they really happen or were they just fatigued? Now how often does that happen as opposed to pilots falling asleep in the cockpit? Not often I would guess. Now I hear that recording is the rage. NetJets has just ordered 420 new 72-hour digital cvrs that transmit to cell systems. It is set for a snore alert. (Just kidding) In the beta test it couldn’t tell the difference between a snore and gas and since the test crew were full of hot air, they are looking to refine the systems before they are installed in August.

Yes, I do understand that you guys do an outstanding job of making things happen. Make no mistake about it. Everyone I know have the greatest respect for your flying and how you take care of the Owners. You do make it happen every day. When you step back and look at what we together achieve every day it is amazing. Tens of thousands of details integrated into systems that work and some that have challenges. It is not perfect and never will be, but it can be better. I just strongly disagree with the tactics that your MEC is using and the approach they have toward negotiations. Why do you not get the concept that the company has made x offer and offered to let you examine the books to prove that the offer is valid with the economics of the company? The NMB gets it, but I don’t understand why you do not. If you are more valuable than what you feel is offered, then why don’t you go to where you can get the value you want? It is obvious that it is too far between what you want and what there will be.

The only people you are holding hostage is yourself.

 

[JustInfo]

I have always known management "doesn't get it"


Now I am wondering if we have a new fab 5 that "don't get it"


Same movie, new actors...I hope not.

 

[CMHTroll]

You are right, they don't get it!

I have always known management "doesn't get it"
Now I am wondering if we have a new fab 5 that "don't get it"
Same movie, new actors...I hope not.

It is not entirely the same, but new actors. Just ask yourself if you want to be in the same position a year from now as you are today, or do you cut the best deal that you can today and work on tomorrow? The problem is if you shoot to high you hit nothing. And if they don't get it and spread misinformation like religion, then you will be in the same place a year from now as you are today.

It is easy to verify. Look at the NMB fax on the company site and look at what the Union interperted to say. Even now they misquote it to keep the “Solidarity” alive. They need you to believe in them 120%, and if they were getting it, you should. But if they are not and it is causing you to question one another, then you have problems. Send a clear message to them and make sure that they “get it.”

 

[Sun Tzu]

Troll, you are are so predictable! Stop your union busting tactics. You are so easy to read.

If the company shoots too low all they do is shoot themselves in the foot. They've fired off enough rounds that they are almost lame. If the MEC and the pilots werent effective, you and your troll friends wouldnt be on here trying to stir up trouble. Stop the worn out montra about the offer and open company books. We both know this is just fluff. The current offer is an insult and the books are a joke.

The pilots are in good hands with the current MEC that 89% elected. They are fighting for what we asked. The only agenda they have is to fight for what the membership has asked. If we don't fix this contract now, the company will pull the same "bad faith" negotiations (or lack of) for another 6 years.

Go back to the labor relations department or your law firm and shut your pie hole.

 

[JetProp]

LOL...

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[CMHTroll]

IBT 1108 Dreams of Strike vote 100%

89% is a good start with the election of an MEC that is working for the pilots. We just need to get the rest of the 11% to see the big picture here. Make no mistake the strike vote WILL pass. If you vote not to strike you are only hurting yourself.

Come on trolls, what do you have to say? What will be your spin on a 100% strike vote? Oh, you won't want to touch that one because you can't divide the pilot membership on that one.

Dream on. If the strilke vote is 100" then I figure I'll have 2261 beers to buy. But My wallet is safe. You just might get a strike vote, and I encourage you to support your leadership. I encourage you to support them to bargain in good faith.

 

[CMHTroll]

Troll, you are are so predictable! Stop your union busting tactics. You are so easy to read.

If the company shoots too low all they do is shoot themselves in the foot. They've fired off enough rounds that they are almost lame. If the MEC and the pilots werent effective, you and your troll friends wouldnt be on here trying to stir up trouble. Stop the worn out montra about the offer and open company books. We both know this is just fluff. The current offer is an insult and the books are a joke.

The pilots are in good hands with the current MEC that 89% elected. They are fighting for what we asked. The only agenda they have is to fight for what the membership has asked. If we don't fix this contract now, the company will pull the same "bad faith" negotiations (or lack of) for another 6 years.

Go back to the labor relations department or your law firm and shut your pie hole.

1. Not a member of law firm or Labor department. Just an NJS employee.

2. You can make of the offer what you want, but what you see is what you will get, if you want anything. (I guess you prefer time out.)

3. Pilots are in good hands. If you mean your leadership, (Nicknamed the FAB 5 minus - That stands for minus brains I think, I have to ask the team who originated that phrase.) then you are in for a very rough and long ride. What did they do for Jason? What have they done for the pilots who were just fired? Nothing, because those individuals were wrong, and they can't fix it. So keep up your spirits and believe that they will do the right thing.

5. The problem is your definition of bad faith. The company has been bargaining in good faith, you just don't like the fact thay won't give you a 100% raise. It just sounds like spoiled children here in the "Casino."

 

[CMHTroll]

Don't fall asleep

yup that's CMH troll for you.

again the pilot force goes yaaaaaaawn at your post

Don't fall asleep, you know what happens to a NetJets pilot when he fallls asleep...

 

[Diesel]

Hey CMHtroll you want to run your mouth about jason? Step up and be a man. Go ahead and PM me. You know nothing about the situation but i'm sure i can show you a little new england hospitality if you keep running your mouth.

Is jason a friend? Your **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** right he is and he doens't need some scumbag like you trashing his name on a message board.

Your a loser and continue to push buttons because you have nothing else in your life. Why don't you do us all a favor and go for a boat ride in modesto bay. blurb blurb blurb

 

[x402]

5. The problem is your definition of bad faith. The company has been bargaining in good faith, you just don't like the fact thay won't give you a 100% raise. It just sounds like spoiled children here in the "Casino."


One more time, "we are negotiating for the pilots of NJA." Until NJS wants to be represented as bargining unit, there is nothing we can do to help or hurt you. Aim High is the mantra, is that hard to understand? How secure is YOUR job?