NetJets seniority

[Spooky 1]

How is seniority established within a new hire class? Age/birthdate, date of interview or?

Thanks in advance

 

[flywest]

Its done by age: Older = more senior

 

[Fracster]

Seniority means very little at NJA. The schedules are awarded on seniority but not with the right percentages. Trips are not assigned based on seniority but rather who kisses arse more. Airplanes assignments are based on whats available at the time of the employment offer. Vacations are the only schedule that is truly seniority based without outside influence.

As always its a sh!t job so make sure you aware entering this venture with eyes wide open.

 

[CRAWDADDY]

Seniority means very little at NJA. The schedules are awarded on seniority but not with the right percentages. Trips are not assigned based on seniority but rather who kisses arse more. Airplanes assignments are based on whats available at the time of the employment offer. Vacations are the only schedule that is truly seniority based without outside influence.

As always its a sh!t job so make sure you aware entering this venture with eyes wide open.

Given the level of frustration, a little hyperbole can be excused. Yes, seniority is assigned w/in the class by age. And now, folks go thru indoc first. Yes, arse kissing does occur but you have an inflated sense of self worth if you think the schedulers are out to deliberately screw you in particular. To be honest, I don't think most of them know whether their own arses are drilled or punched and most of the trips are quite random in their assignment. This explains the waste as well as anything. They just don't have it together. That said, there is deliberate favoritism re the type of trips that the NJI guys do everyday and with the over time pay that you get for working extended days (sometimes just after midnights). So, most are busting their humps flying a lot of legs while a few are doing the same or less work and making decent pay.
Of course, this varies by fleet. To my knowledge, the non-APU a/c don't even have an A-team.

 

[Flying Illini]

The way you say it, being on the "A-team" is a bad thing...is that correct?

 

[hydrarkt]

Where seniority really DOES matter is in schedule bidding for the 7 and 7 schedule. Only half of each fleet gets 7 and 7 and it's bid by seniority. There is a LOT of plane changing now with pilots in larger airplanes going to smaller airplanes in order to get the 7 and 7. This, of course, hurts the company overall. But until there is a new contract, this will continue.
BTW, there is a good chance that much of the "A" team favoritism will be eliminated from the "just after midnight" deal. A little birdie told me

 

[dsptchrnja]

They just don't have it together.

How easy is it to criticize a job that you've never done a day in your life?

 

[Diesel]

dispatchrnja-

The same goes for you.

 

[dsptchrnja]

...trips are quite random in their assignment. This explains the waste as well as anything... So, most are busting their humps flying a lot of legs while a few are doing the same or less work and making decent pay.

Do you have access to Ijet? Do you see every crew line for every tail the company is flying every day and do you watch it throughout the day to see how changes develop and how decisions are made? If not then I suggest not being so dogmatic in your assumptions.

 

[dsptchrnja]

dispatchrnja-

The same goes for you.

I knew their was something we could agree on Diesel