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[FLYLOW22]

Face it. If you havent fixed it by now your not going to. how long have you had? How long has this glouruous idea been floating around and you STILL can't make it work??? Dude if we did our job the way you do yours we WOULD be out of business and that is a fact!!! I'd like to hear you argue that. You guys had your chace and you failed. Face it it just dosent work. If i were you I would go back to the drawing board before the economy slows down.

What really kills turds like FamGhey is that PILOTS may just be part of the solution in an industry that decided to shun them and treat them like cogs.

It just irks them to hell that they can't just sing a memo and solve the company problems.

 

[Guitar Guy]

What is your definition of failure?

We could start with the fact that pilots are barred from communicating directly with schedulers. There are sadly plenty of missed opportunities because the company continues to maintain a wall between crews and schedulers. If we have a mechanical problem, we can talk directly with maintenance. If there's a problem with a flight release, call directly to a dispatcher. Ops-related issue, we can talk directly with an ACP. But if there's a scheduling issue, we can only call a flight manager or ACP and hope that the message gets delivered "the big giant head" at least partially.

I would consider that situation an ongoing failure and one that should have been corrected long ago. A boat goes faster when everyone is rowing in the same direction.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Failed?



utilization rate of the aircraft is 10% better than a year ago
maintenance availability is 10% higher than a year ago
we fly about about 800 flights per day. What percentage of the dispatches are incorrect?
We order over 1,000 meals a day, what percentage of orders are wrong?
We arrange hundreds of hotel rooms a day, what percentage are wrong?

What is your definition of failure?

You really want answers to his?? WOW!!

You forgot to ask the right question Ghey.

How many of these operations would have gon T.U. without pilot intervention????

That is the question.

 

[FLYLOW22]

A boat goes faster when everyone is rowing in the same direction.

"Or pulliung a rope in the same direction??"

Hmmm. Sounded good when I heard it. Darn near brought a tear to me eye.

Sounded good anyway.

 

[realityman]

FG,

You STILL don't get it, do you?

Sigh.

I'm afraid it's attitude like yours that's going to cause round two of negotiations to be a repeat of round 1. FLYLOW, you ready?

FG, how about talking to all the newhires and asking them if domiciles are an insignificant issue. Especially since every reason the company gave for needing the domiciles has failed to materialize. Except the most important reason: creating a wedge in the pilot group.
Puh-lease! Domiciles needed for more direct airlining of crews?! Did that reason sound good to you after 4 beers or 5?

Yes, we KNOW we have it good here. And it wasn't from charity by the company. We had to FIGHT for it, tooth and nail. You act like NJA management made this place a wonderful place to work out of the goodness of their hearts.

And continuing to fight for improvements, even in crewfood, is a good thing.

Oh, and just because crewfood and domiciles are the two issues YOU chose to bring up and call 'the only things we have to bitch about', doesn't mean that's all we're pursuing. There are PLENTY of other important issues that we'll be addressing very soon.

We got a good contract last time. But we got it knowing there were many things that would still need to be worked on. And guess what? We're wroking on them.

PS- Again, must remind you that the crewfood program in it's current incarnation was something the company wanted, not the pilots. Naturally, we're trying to fix that abortion.

 

[RNObased]

I asked you a question FG, when you going to answer it???

 

[fischman]

How do you take that quote - aimed at people complaining about what are relatively minor issues - and extrapolate it into an attack on all pilots at NetJets?

Regardless of how you 'perceive' the 'tone' it is a valid point, one that you've already validated in your earlier posts...

Amazing how quickly some people forget the past...

Don't talk to me about the past. I have a degree in U.S. History.

I stand by all my previous posts and I think that if you read what I write instead of hitting the quote button you would see that I never attacked NetJets. If fact, it is the best job I have had.

I was attacking you, the man who supposedly has the highest respect for the pilots of NetJets (remember posting that?) and serve bitch slaps to all. How do you do this you may ask? You call domiciles a trivial issue. The fact that you see it as trivial just illustrates how out of touch with reality you are. I mean: You are out there man!! Way out there.

Crew food trivial? These jets need 3 consumables to fly. 1) fuel 2) coffee 3) food. I want you to take a good look at that menu. Eat nothing but what is on that POS for a week. Tell me how you feel about a 4 hour old salmon fillet after that. Tell me what you think about PB&J after eating nothing else for lunch for a week. Tell me how you feel about old translucent fruit. Tell me how you feel about you food not showing up. Tell me how you like a pork chop as hard as a hockey puck. Tell me how you fell about the company giving out a crappy settlement and continue to violate the contract because they know it will only cost them $25.

BTW, how long do you think I've been with NetJets?

 

[FLYLOW22]

FG,

You STILL don't get it, do you?

Sigh.

I'm afraid it's attitude like yours that's going to cause round two of negotiations to be a repeat of round 1. FLYLOW, you ready?

You know... I was just thinking the same thing myself tonight.

I really think FamGhey LIKES the conflict. I think he knows nothing else and will continue to display the same hum drum, "Me Boss, You peon" mantra that he always has while simultaneously worshiping upper management like some form of Demi Gods that shoot thunder bolts from their arses.

I hope that round 2 will never be necessary because there are no true winners... but of course... we ALL will be ready.

 

[Diesel]

Still pulling on that rope?

Oh thats right they lost yet another lawsuit against a crew member.

We're all pulling together right?

 

[FamilyGuy]

And why do you think that the inefficiency hasn't been fixed???? Any idea???
Maybe because everyone has their own little castle and needs to protect it??? Or maybe the fact that no one in the company is accountable for anything except the folks actually driving the jets around??? This is the fact that chaps my a$$ no end. No one is accountable for any of their actions in CMH. I know of only one person to get the axe for doing some dumb stuff, but then again she cost the company millions.

Accountability.... Family Guy when we going to see some??????

Not sure what you're talking about here. I've personally seen four different leadership teams here in columbus since I joined the company. I've seen a lot of people come and go. Just went through it again last year.