Live4flyng said:
At least you got something right for a change.
What BS did you ask me to back up with facts? Ever?? I don't wear panties either. Keep talking moron.
I keep waiting to see substantiation of the "less-trained, less-safe" B.S. with even a shadow of evidence. It's quite a claim, so much so, it'll be challenged. Your leadership's B.S. is your B.S. (that's how elections and representation, including the union kind) work. So let's see the comparative statistics between yourselves and those departments making the salary you want to equal. Training and frequency is officially noted, just like incident/accident rates. Those basic statistics would actually help prove the assertion, but lacking even those however, it's meaningless tripe. You can repeat it over and over, it's still meanlingless tripe. Get 2 thousand people chanting it in the streets, and it remains...you guessed it...meaninless tripe.
Do you guys honestly believe you're going to persuade anyone that matters using unproveable, scaremonger tactics that denegrate others?...because you hope it increases the facade of your victimhood? Well, obviously your leaders do or wouldn't issue it. But the thing is, you're not persuading anyone by using them...not your management, not your owners, not any other pilot....the only people believing it is you. That hurts your overall cause because it makes you look stupid, arrogant, neophyte-ish, and...well....stupid.
I suspect I'm dealing mostly with people who came of age in the Clinton Era and learned to spew B.S. masquerading as Fact, no matter how ludicrous and unprovable, who then go crying to mommy and whine about life being "unfair" when asked to back it up.
You might want to pass along this notion up the Lemming-to-Lemming Leader chain of command; When trying to influence people, stick to things you actually know about instead of guessing...it makes you all look foolish.