NetJets Pilots to Picket Meeting of Berkshire Hathaway Shareholders

[El Chupacabra]

About as much as I care about your comments...?

 

[MGlobemaster]

About as much as I care about your comments...?

Exactly! They don't care!

 

[FlyinFife]

Hey you wonderful NetJet Pilots!

Just wanted to throw out a big thank you to you all for all of the food you gave us line guys. Secondly, who was the hot flight attendant on the Falcon 2000 that was breaking up with her boyfriend in the "Canteen"? See you on the flip side!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Kasher = employee basher

Kasher had a hand in the TWA flogging as well.

Isn't Kasher the arbitrator that you'll be using? The same one that just handed down a 30% paycut to Alaska Airlines, a profitable company?

Good luck to NJ pilots. I hope you guys get what you deserve, but I see the writing on the wall with this Alaska deal.

 

[Intreped1]

All joking aside, I am pulling for you guys and support your endeavour. I was just hoping to see a bigger show. It would have provided a bigger impact for your target audience (whoever they may be).

That was the tactical team you saw which hit the target precisely and accurately.
What you didn't see, nor will anyone , is the support / logistics team behind them that range from 1200 to 1500 . Or let's just say more than 51%.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Exactly! They don't care!

What they do care about is if there ride to Aspen will be there or not. Now they know that if BRK doesn't do something it may not. What the BRK shareholders care about is if one of there companys will sustain hundreds of millions in losses due to a Strike.

 

[Grim Reaper]

The question is, just how much more is the average owner willing to pay for exactly the same service? That is to say, your owners are receiving quality service for what they presently pay. What is in it for the owner if the price goes up? The safety argument is tired. Certainly you guys are not going to be less safe without a pay raise. I mean, who is always the first person to the accident site: the PILOT. So, the pay me more and I will be safer argument really does not hold water.

Informing the BK shareholder is not a bad idea, but why would a shareholder want to increase labor cost and perhaps receive less return on their investment?

Why would the media care about a labor organization that caters to the rich? The mass media is a traditional leftist institution that spends its time brow beating the rich.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I answered your question about shareholders. You wouldn't want to see $100 of millions in losses due to Labor self help would you?

Proper Pilot Wages... It doesn't cost... IT PAYS.







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Somebody needs to read Herb Kellherer's book NUTZ!










When you take care of your employees they take care of the customers who in turn take care of YOU!

I viewed the selection of a flight provider as akin to picking a brain surgeon:you simply want the best. (Let someone else experiment with the low bidder.) - WB 2004 Statement to Shareholders



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[I-R-DXR]

I answered your question about shareholders. You wouldn't want to see $100 of millions in losses due to Labor self help would you?

So it comes down to what is cheaper?

(A) Millions to break a strike
(B) Mllions or pay what is demanded.
(C) Find a happy medium


Lets hope its choice "C"
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[On Your Six]

Happy Medium? After HOW LONG?????????????

So it comes down to what is cheaper?

(A) Millions to break a strike
(B) Mllions or pay what is demanded.
(C) Find a happy medium


Lets hope its choice "C"
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Bullspit! It's time to pay the pilots what they are worth. Netjets pay levels don't even come close to the "average" pay for Part 91 flying for the same aircraft types and yet NJA pilots fly A LOT more. Paying Citation X Captains $70-80K - you've got to be kidding me - not even close to the national average. The pilots are the front-line interface with NJA's precious customers. No more delays. It's time to pony-up Warren.... No excuses.

 

[El Chupacabra]

At 8 yrs you can make the $70 to $80 K. The proposed TA capped base Pay at $82K max for 70% of those on the property. Small wonder 82% voted NO. Starting PIC pay was raised from $37K to $41.5K... Still $23K less than starting pay at CS.

 

[I-R-DXR]

Bullspit! It's time to pay the pilots what they are worth. Netjets pay levels don't even come close to the "average" pay for Part 91 flying for the same aircraft types and yet NJA pilots fly A LOT more. Paying Citation X Captains $70-80K - you've got to be kidding me - not even close to the national average. The pilots are the front-line interface with NJA's precious customers. No more delays. It's time to pony-up Warren.... No excuses.

"national average"
Is that charter ops, corporate flight dept, or fractional average?

Thanks

 

[El Chupacabra]

"national average"
Is that charter ops, corporate flight dept, or fractional average?

Thanks

Who cares.... We are the only ones flying the X fractional.

 

[x402]

"national average"
Is that charter ops, corporate flight dept, or fractional average?

It's time to go back to work Mr Okey.

 

[I-R-DXR]

Sorry if it offened you. I though it was an honest question.


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[PseudoName]

Bullspit! It's time to pay the pilots what they are worth. Paying Citation X Captains $70-80K - you've got to be kidding me - not even close to the national average.

FYI....in the Part 135 world, C-X PIC's are making 75-80K. I know a 5th year NJA C-X Captain, he made over 65K last year, only worked 14 days a month, and had June - August off as vacation (well, I think he worked 2 tours in the 3 months).

Compare this schedule and pay with a Part 135 pilot, on-call 365/7 days a week with 2-3 weeks vacation per year, making 80K. NetJets QOL/pay doesn't look too bad!

Yes, there are a few Part 91 midsize aircraft operators that pay their pilots lots of $$$ and only fly 400 hrs a year, however, using them as a benchmark for your payscale and QOL is absurd.

As I have mentioned on this board many times, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. You want to be paid similar to all the other corporate pilots, then I would suggest that your pilot group give up over half of your "hard days off"....maybe then Warren will give you the pay you are DEMANDING!

 

[El Chupacabra]

Believe me I am not offended by you.

You seem to be most reasonable. Its my rough NY accent that may make my words seem harsh I apologize.

 

[El Chupacabra]

FYI....in the Part 135 world, C-X PIC's are making 75-80K. I know a 5th year NJA C-X Captain, he made over 65K last year, only worked 14 days a month, and had June - August off as vacation (well, I think he worked 2 tours in the 3 months).

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I am a 7th yr C X PIC and I am close to the last who can hold 7/7. Your friend should have been on the 17 day schedule... Likely he was not yet released as PIC so was able to hold that schedule by bidding against FO's. He will not hold 7/7 once released.

The ave pay is in the $50's. 82% are junior to me and I made just $67K.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

Maybe all those probings from the Greys are taking a toll...

Believe me I am not offended by you.

You seem to be most reasonable. Its my rough NY accent that may make my words seem harsh I apologize.

I bet you will never visit Puerto Rico again. At least no the Southeast part!

 

[GVFlyer]

Who cares.... We are the only ones flying the X fractional.

Not to be argumentative, but Flight Options new fleet consists of the Hawker 400, the Hawker 800, the Citation X, and the WSCoD.

And what's up with the "El Chupacabra"? That means "goat sucker" in Spanish.

GV