NetJets Pilots to Picket Meeting of Berkshire Hathaway Shareholders

[netjetwife]

H25b, I do believe that it's fair to say that about HALF of the pilots have been at NJA for less than 5 years. Because of its hiring boom, it may well be the exception to your theory that ..." The junior guys are the ones that are thrown in front of the train." When you consider that 82% of them voted down an offer of $69K at year 5, you will better understand why those posting here are not worried. StrongUnion has many junior pilots in leadership positions; my husband is a good example. The membership won't be throwing those guys under the train because they're the ones driving the train and stoking the engines...


If you need more proof, look at the success of the bypass pay bid where senior pilots with held their bids and got 116 FOs bumped up to Captain's pay. My husband was one of those FO's and will NOT vote to leave the others on wages that qualify for govt assistance! The fallacy with your theory, as far as NJ is concerned, is that it assumes that the senior pilots are paid properly. That is NOT the case.

Now I'll direct you to Hawkered's post---

"No, not anymore. Everybody gets taken care of, or we walk! This is not some Teamster's joke: this is the most organized campaign that aviation outside of the major airlines has ever seen!

Believe me, I thought this Strong Union thing was not going to be any better than the "Fab Five", when it first got started, but I was wrong!!"
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What an excellent testimony to the level of solidarity we have achieved!
Hawkered was no push over; he took a lot of convincing! The NJ pilots will continue what they started at Omaha--speaking with ONE voice and delivering ONE message. A fair wage for everyone is part of that message.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Voting no was a No-brainer.

The average pilot was on 3rd year looking to start yr 4.

In the TA, 70% of the pilot force was assigned to the Category II payscale.

For these pilots about to start yr 4... and looking over the next 12 yrs of their career...where the payscale stopped at yr 15, the total salary collected over that 12 yr period would be $12,000 LESS than the current CBA provides.

Yes thats right ... $12,000 LESS in total. A PAYCUT....

Thats the great deal we achieved after 3 yrs of negotiations. 82% voted NO on the TA... and then 89% voted to FIRE the MEC.

"There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count and those who cannot."​

 

[Fozzy]

Is there a Ignore button on this board??? Because I am sick of CatPuke and his/her flame bait.

 

[CatYaaak]

Is there a Ignore button on this board??? Because I am sick of CatPuke and his/her flame bait.

Well of course there is. You should use it if it'll make you feel better. "Feel good stuff" and unquestioning agreement is all you ever want to hear anyway.

 

[Grizz]

Is there a Ignore button on this board??? Because I am sick of CatPuke and his/her flame bait.

Yes there is. Best 15 seconds I ever spent was putting that idiot on ignore. I think you just click on his screen name, pull up his profile and there should be a link that says "Add CatYaaak To Your Ignore List." It's been a long time since I did it but I'm pretty sure that's correct.

If everyone ignored him, he'd eventually go away because all the fun would be gone for him. He has nothing but contempt for the pilots at NetJets. Folks that argue with him only feed his delusional feelings of superiority. Ignore him and he'll take his ball and go home.

 

[Fozzy]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Thank you Griz.
I forgot where that button was. I feel much better now. Hell, I was looking for a reason to have that first drink, and now I have it.
That a$$ was the first to respond, even before you. But now, no more catpuke.

Hey CatPuke, kiss my a$$.

Ha Ha, respond all you want, not going to see it. LOSER!

 

[CatYaaak]

You should change your tag line to.... "When in danger, when in doubt. TALK in circles, scream and shout"

You are a profressional at talking in circles and not making sense. A self proclaimed expert on fractionals with no fractional experience.

If you don't like what ASAP or Netjets publishes, don't read it. Believe it or not, it wasn't written for you.

Yawn

Genius, there's a reason that I don't have "fractional experience", and it ain't the same reason I don't have experience in something I would actually desire...say..."lunar landing experience". If I knew as little about fractionals as you say I do, then gee, I might be there....like you, for instance. Then after I told you to raise the gear we could both sit in the cockpit whining and complaining that we were both fooled with promises and the wealthy are so mean, yet how smart and knowledgable how each other is.

But you amuse me...even moreso when you get your panties in a twist when someone asks you to support your B.S. with facts. You can't.....ever.

Oh yeah, you're definitely high-salary material.

 

[CatYaaak]

Yes there is. Best 15 seconds I ever spent was putting that idiot on ignore. I think you just click on his screen name, pull up his profile and there should be a link that says "Add CatYaaak To Your Ignore List." It's been a long time since I did it but I'm pretty sure that's correct.

If everyone ignored him, he'd eventually go away because all the fun would be gone for him. He has nothing but contempt for the pilots at NetJets. Folks that argue with him only feed his delusional feelings of superiority. Ignore him and he'll take his ball and go home.

Grizz, you should be thanking me. If you didn't have your little made-up demons like me to "eliminate" or corporate evil empires to fight, where would you channel all that gung-ho energy? You might be in jail or something

You began ignoring me when I asked you to reconcile your advice to others to not accept employment at NetJets because it hurts your internal cause with the fact that you did that very same thing when you signed-on. I've always insisted that the easiest way to reject a wage anywhere if it sucks is to not go to work there in the first place, that accepting the position is voting "Yes" to a contract. Now, I'm sure in your eyes you think it's different when you said "yes" back then, because then, it was all about you. Wave all the Righteous Worker Banners you want to wave now, but in reality, it's no different at all.

You may think I'm an idiot, but I know you're a hypocrite.

 

[CatYaaak]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Thank you Griz.
I forgot where that button was. I feel much better now. Hell, I was looking for a reason to have that first drink, and now I have it.
That a$$ was the first to respond, even before you. But now, no more catpuke.

Hey CatPuke, kiss my a$$.

Ha Ha, respond all you want, not going to see it. LOSER!

Ah yes...such vocabulary. Such uninpired sniping. The only thing you left out was threatening to close down my flight department or maybe say I'm a scab. Nope.. nothing that would be a sign for Original Thought here, but that's no suprise.

Clearly, yet another "quality" individual that's putting me their "I'm Gonna Go Pout" list.

Now, if I could actually feel sad about that, I just know I'd be deeply, deeply saddened. But personally, I think someone would have to be quite a loser to get emotional over what's written on a message board...but that's just me.

But who are you kidding?...trying to justify your first drink of the day? You're no good at it....just look at how you can't even justify simple union-generated statements?

Besides, adults don't need a reason to have a drink. They just have one....children make exuses. Adults should, however, be able to justify their salary. Seems you have it backwards.

 

[Traderd]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.


Thank you Griz.
I forgot where that button was. I feel much better now. Hell, I was looking for a reason to have that first drink, and now I have it.
That a$$ was the first to respond, even before you. But now, no more catpuke.

Hey CatPuke, kiss my a$$.

Ha Ha, respond all you want, not going to see it. LOSER!

Is this an accurate reflection of the maturity of the professionals flying NJ aircraft?