NetJets International Interview

[El Chupacabra]

That information is not for release outside our group. But it is several tens of thousands more than has been offered.

 

[Publishers]

My one question is why Santulli ever bought EJA. He would have been just as well off starting from scratch with a non-union virgin certificate and building the company.

I can only assume it was for the high profile client list. These customers are already paying outlandish management costs and any change in pay is sure to escalate that to where it is only those with enough money not to care that stay with it.

If fractional sales slow or recede, then this house of cards will soon be in deep trouble. They have already figured out that the European market is quite different than the US.

If you figure you are so underpaid, go shop yourself to the market. I assure you I can get a type rated Challenger crew for $160k a year that has experience and that includes all benefits. It is one thing to read an NBAA salary survey and to actually go out and find a job that meets that. Are there high paying postions at major Fortune 500 companies, yes. Are they plentiful, no.

 

[El Chupacabra]

What we need is to raise the minimum wage for pilots to $100K.

 

[Live4flyng]

My one question is why Santulli ever bought EJA. He would have been just as well off starting from scratch with a non-union virgin certificate and building the company.

Hey Publishers,
You really don't know much about Executive Jet Aviation or Netjets do you? I would recommend reviewing the history of the company before posting any more garbage. You truly look like an A$$ when you speak of something you have no clue about. Do you really claim to be an aviation expert and columnist? Maybe you are the one who continues to publish erroneous articles for AIN.

 

[Diesel]

that explains why AIN get's it wrong every time. He's doing his research on this board and makes it up.

Too bad publisher's couldn't handle it on the road and had to go and try and write about aviation. Yet he never really could quite make it to the big show.

Ha ha we finally figured it out. Publisher is one of those guys that talks loudly on an airliner so everybody knows that he knows something about flying. Of course the professionals keep quiet and just want him to shut the f up.

Just like this board. LOSER

 

[El Chupacabra]

House of Cards.

If its really a House of Cards then let it fall.

 

[SafetyTheSeat]

CATYAP



As an experienced aviator and GulfStream pilot, I must say that it is insulting to any pilot to make a big deal out of flying international and or the GulfStream. International is a long IFR flight with position reports PERIOD and the GulfStream is just another airplane PERIOD!



Stop having such a big head about equipment one operates and realize that anyone can fly the dang airplane. Additionally; like it or not NetJets is under the RLA and all non-UNION employees from a purchased company will go to the bottom of our Air Carrier Seniority list.



NetJets will leave the GulfStream entanglement to implement their business plan as they seem fit not as dictated by an OEM. Dassault provides machines without limitations to their operations or crewing-GulfStream does not. Look for the 7x soon with NJA pilots flying them international- as we presently do daily!

 

[CatYaaak]

CATYAP



As an experienced aviator and GulfStream pilot, I must say that it is insulting to any pilot to make a big deal out of flying international and or the GulfStream. International is a long IFR flight with position reports PERIOD and the GulfStream is just another airplane PERIOD!



Stop having such a big head about equipment one operates and realize that anyone can fly the dang airplane. Additionally; like it or not NetJets is under the RLA and all non-UNION employees from a purchased company will go to the bottom of our Air Carrier Seniority list.



NetJets will leave the GulfStream entanglement to implement their business plan as they seem fit not as dictated by an OEM. Dassault provides machines without limitations to their operations or crewing-GulfStream does not. Look for the 7x soon with NJA pilots flying them international- as we presently do daily!

Thanks for the lame-o attempt to assign a big head to me, but I didn't make a big deal out of anything, certainly not flying a Gulfstream (flying any airplane ain't rocket surgery) nor is int'l ops....um...PERIOD. Congrats on your experience, but that still doesn't change the history of how NJI came to be, or what forces like Gulfstream and insurance companies dictated as far as time-in-type to have the operation up an running from ground zero in little time. Direct your hissy-fit at them, but it's not as if this is a new thing. Even airlines have rules regarding green-on-green crewing in a type, and that's what drawing from the EJA pilot pool at the time back then would have resulted in. If you think that's insulting, well whatever.

Besides, what's so great about having a union? You've had one there for years now, and yet it remains that nobody flies business aircraft for less than you agreed to do it for. Is it all about the feel-good rhetoric?...and how will your lot change if you succeed in what you want regarding higher-paid, non-union pilots, who didn't sell out?

 

[Publishers]

I know enough that if the deal with Santulli had not gone through, I likely would have been the head of Sales and Marketing under Paul Tibbetts which I had several interviews for with he and Bruce Sunland.

I do not write for AIN which is not a disclaimer as they are a good publication.

Frankly Diesel, what do you consider the big show. I was in charge of the construction and implementation of the Flying Tigers domestic hub, was head of sales and marketing at Evergreen International, was the principal trasport category aircraft trader for International Air Leases, was responsible for providing certification consulting and crews for airline certifications like Air Tran and Sun Jet.

The fact is that EJA did not exactly have a great history of profits. Lassiter and LeMay had a great time playing with it but did not produce much for investors. The company struggled along for almost twenty years. They basically sold charter for about $3.45 a mile and were geared for one way trips.

In the end, EJA brought very little to the table at purchase. They had a high profile list, a certificate, and mostly ex military pilots. They did have a decent maintenance shop by that point at CMH. Still, if you looked at his game plan, he could have just as easily started from scratch. I would have been glad to sell him my 135 operation with it's own airport base, fuel farm, and hanger for less. As he changed everything about the operation, what difference would it have made.

 

[Live4flyng]

There you go not making any sense once again. So you drop a few names from the old days, but you clearly have little knowledge about NJA and it's operations.

I know enough that if the deal with Santulli had not gone through, I likely would have been the head of Sales and Marketing under Paul Tibbetts which I had several interviews for with he and Bruce Sunland.

Please explain to us why you would go and work for Executive Jet as an employee when you

would have been glad to sell him my 135 operation with it's own airport base, fuel farm, and hanger for less.

??? This makes absolutely no sense at all. You would be willing to go to work as an employee for a competitor of your own charter operation? Please explain in plain english so we can understand this one.