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[old*art]

fischman be careful with your selective quotes .. I believe all who post here were treated with equal distain by the rational few on the company message board ... y'all are the truly dysfunctional who have to air here behind pseudonyms.

 

[JungleJett]

I think all NJ pilots should refrain from posting here...

This will be my last....

 

[fischman]

fischman be careful with your selective quotes .. I believe all who post here were treated with equal distain by the rational few on the company message board ... y'all are the truly dysfunctional who have to air here behind pseudonyms.

If you'll notice, I posted my name.

Cast does not have access on the private boards or I'd be trading quotes and poems with him over there. I didn't have a dog in this fight until COT posted Diesel's name. Now I'm in it for fun.

Cast, if you would prefer to do it in private you should have my email in your computer still right?

 

[fischman]

Cast of Thousands,

Bertrand Russell:

Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd.
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[fischman]

Cast of Thousands,

The Litany Against Fear of the Bene Gesserit

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Dune by Frank Herbert

 

[fischman]

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[old*art]

don't know how to delete

 

[CastofThousands]

If you'll notice, I posted my name.

Cast does not have access on the private boards or I'd be trading quotes and poems with him over there. I didn't have a dog in this fight until COT posted Diesel's name. Now I'm in it for fun.

Cast, if you would prefer to do it in private you should have my email in your computer still right?

I was taking note of your outrage for use of names through the first 10 pages of the thread...

I guess initials "BO" and a nickname "Dunner" (not the man's real name) are very different. I can see how one could cross the line and the other doesn't????

Once again, the issues are:
1) The economic landscape has [clearly] changed
2) Private aviation will need to adjust to the new marketplace
3) Washington is attacking private aviation [in policy and optics] and its customer base
4) Every operator in private aviation has seen significant reductions in flight demand
5) The marketplace is shrinking, yet a few operators will gain in relative market share through this downturn
6) The focus should be/must be on retaining and creating new pilot/aviation jobs
7) Tens of thousands of private aviation jobs have evaporated in 6 short months
8) The Crew Integration and Operational Excellence programs will do a lot to improve our operations and preserve jobs
9) The pilots have sound representation and are led by good people
10) The pilots need to engage the issues and participate at every level: DC, CMH, etc

and,
11) There is a big difference between "BO" and "Dunner" on FI????

Those are the points of the discussion. I hope we are done here.

Thanks,

.

 

[x402]

I have some wonderful, jean paul sartre quotes, but it's late.....

 

[wolfpackpilot]

NJI pilots are not allowed on the union web boards.

Where else can we talk?

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Interesting....

Just got an email from Gruman Fan, he got kicked off F.I. and cant log in, and his and Rusty's posts are G-O-N-E.... Wow! Somebody bypassed socialism and went straight to communism.

I guess F.I. moderators don't like when "real" conversations surface.

Oh well, back to your regularly scheduled program of wise cracks and stupid sayings....

 

[CastofThousands]

Interesting....

Just got an email from Gruman Fan, he got kicked off F.I. and cant log in, and his and Rusty's posts are G-O-N-E.... Wow! Somebody bypassed socialism and went straight to communism.

I guess F.I. moderators don't like when "real" conversations surface.

Oh well, back to your (OUR - you're are as much a part of this "program" as anyone)regularly scheduled program of wise cracks and stupid sayings....

Wolf,

It's OK - tell him or her, he or she can still send me that email with his or her name on it.

I always enjoy meeting the tough guys/girls and I don't want to pass up the opportunity make sure I hear all his or her feelings.

Especially since it has been made clear I had nothing to do with GPAC's unwinding and the fact that most of the GPAC leadership is/has been working with NJASAP with the first week of its launch. That first GPAC launch was a little off the charts. It looks like it all worked out.

He/she has the name and can find me in the lookup function on the bb.

Thanks you sir - all my best.

Bill

 

[CE750Driver]

I was taking note of your outrage for use of names through the first 10 pages of the thread...

I guess initials "BO" and a nickname "Dunner" (not the man's real name) are very different. I can see how one could cross the line and the other doesn't????

Once again, the issues are:
1) The economic landscape has [clearly] changed
2) Private aviation will need to adjust to the new marketplace
3) Washington is attacking private aviation [in policy and optics] and its customer base
4) Every operator in private aviation has seen significant reductions in flight demand
5) The marketplace is shrinking, yet a few operators will gain in relative market share through this downturn
6) The focus should be/must be on retaining and creating new pilot/aviation jobs
7) Tens of thousands of private aviation jobs have evaporated in 6 short months
8) The Crew Integration and Operational Excellence programs will do a lot to improve our operations and preserve jobs
9) The pilots have sound representation and are led by good people
10) The pilots need to engage the issues and participate at every level: DC, CMH, etc

and,
11) There is a big difference between "BO" and "Dunner" on FI????

Those are the points of the discussion. I hope we are done here.

Thanks,

.

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12. I wrote my own self serving LOAs, and approved them without anyone noticing. Went to management, and left all my best friends in charge, and thought no one would notice that.


Wow, but they did, and now, things, they are changing.

 

[CastofThousands]

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12. I wrote my own self serving LOAs, and approved them without anyone noticing. Went to management, and left all my best friends in charge, and thought no one would notice that.


Wow, but they did, and now, things, they are changing.

Ah, the facts.

The Union's internal and external legal counsel as well as the entire EBoard and union negotiators have stated the above is false.

Of course, there was a union political campaign last fall and some individuals decided to make up a story and start their little whisper campaign. Unfortunately, it got some traction. But, as stated above some sick individuals LIED!

But then again, you know all that already

Don't leave out the fact "my friends" were overwhelming elected by the membership...

FYI - It was some of "my other friends" that started the whisper campaign. Didn't bother me then - doesn't now - too many now - the facts were there to clearly see the what, when, where, why, and how. That's just life in the union biz!

I doubt much will change - the pilot group is solid and the survey data is clear. There will always be this or that and a disgruntled component.

But Yes, I have no doubt some will try to spin things up. I give the pilots more credit than that - they get it, always have.

Enjoy,
.

 

[CastofThousands]

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12. I wrote my own self serving LOAs, and approved them without anyone noticing. Went to management, and left all my best friends in charge, and thought no one would notice that.


Wow, but they did, and now, things, they are changing.

And, you're welcome.

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