Netjets dying?

[pers-headwall]

What matters is that they have a ton of customers. The more customers you have the easier it is to make cost structure changes that will make you profitable in the end.

Hmmm? General Motors has the most customers in their industry, they should have no problems making those cost structure changes. Right?

Delta Airlines definitely needs to expand and develope more unprofitable routes to "grow" their way out of bankruptcy. "We're losing money now, but we'll make it up in volume!"

P.S. The real Wildcats are in the Big Ten at Northwestern.

 

[doylehargraves]

P.S. The real Wildcats are in the Big Ten at Northwestern.

Now that I WILL agree with. Except the Big Ten IS all hype.

 

[Humphreybogart]

I work for a NJ competitor, none of the ones mentioned here yet. In my opinion, if you want to make fractional flying a career, go to Netjets, period, end of story. It's all about the union contract.

Hey DB, why don't YOU go to Netjets if you want a union so bad and think they're so much better for the long haul. You know we'll never have one, nor need one, here at CitationShares. Guess you have it pretty bad here, huh? That was a stupid comment.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Bogey,

I think you'de be quite surprised to see how many CS pilots would entertain the thought of a Union.

I meet a few each and ever tour I'm out.

And you'd also be surprised at the number of CS folks who realize that the raise they got was a direct result of NJA's contract.

You're not going to continue to kid yourself in believing that our contract ratifying and your pay raise occuring at nearly the same time was by pure chance.....are you?

 

[Guitar Guy]

DO-82 driver: Fanatics like Bogus, er, "Bogart" are everywhere. A few people still believe that OJ didn't kill his ex-wife and her friend.

The "ignore" function is pretty nifty for helping to separate wheat from chaff.

 

[netjetwife]

Depending on a pilot's position and years with a company, it may not be financially smart to change employers. Having a satisfactory salary doesn't mean that a pilot wouldn't feel more secure having their wages and work rules guaranteed in writing. Many also recognize the advantage of having the clout of a union should something go wrong (their fault or not) and a meeting with management is scheduled.

Best of luck to you and your family, DB Cooper.
Netjetwife

 

[Guitar rocker]

DO-82 driver: Fanatics like Bogus, er, "Bogart" are everywhere. A few people still believe that OJ didn't kill his ex-wife and her friend.

The "ignore" function is pretty nifty for helping to separate wheat from chaff.

Actually, even OJ doesnt think that he did it. His new book will be out on the shelves here soon. I forget the name of it....I think it is , "I didnt do it" or something along those lines. Heck, and even if you find the guy that "did it" OJ has a reward out for that.

OK, back onto the subject here......

 

[Humphreybogart]

DO-82 driver: Fanatics like Bogus, er, "Bogart"
The "ignore" function is pretty nifty for helping to separate wheat from chaff.

You have to love the maturity of tools like you that enjoy putting the spin on names. Obviously you an imature person that will ignore something you don't agree with rather than appreciate the fact everyone has their own opinion. Better take more guitar lessons there Guitar Guy, cause you still sound like a beginner, Kid.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Bogey....(LOL...I almost typed Booger...that would be childish).....I actually enjoy your opinions. They are very entertaining and amusing. There are people with similar opinions everywhere.

But tell me, is it still your opinion that the pay raises at Shares just happen to come about just as our contract was ratified?

Do you really beleive that the NJA contract had no influence whatsoever on your pay increase?

 

[netjetwife]

Hey DB, why don't YOU go to Netjets if you want a union so bad and think they're so much better for the long haul. You know we'll never have one, nor need one, here at CitationShares. Guess you have it pretty bad here, huh? That was a stupid comment.

Bogart, you might have had more support for your complaint if not for calling the opinion of others "stupid". As it is, the wheat in your post was lost in the chaff of calling GG "immature" and a "tool". I know him personally and he's none of those things. I'm sure he just found your "stupid comment" as offensive as I did and saw your advice for DB to leave as "bogus". You have to admit that DB's career decisions are entirely his own. It must be noted that you didn't just ignore DB's post, nor did you appreciate the fact that he was entitled to his own opinion. Bogart, aside from the maturity question, there's also the matter of hypocrisy.

 

[FRACTRASH]

My God! How many times do we have to go round and round over the same argument? NJ and CS both have it D@mn good. As for Mr DBCooper please go to NJ if you want the same union protection you had at the airlines. By the way how's that retirement? If a union is the end all be all then why are the pilots at just about all the airlines and regionals getting screwed left and right. I think if management has an agenda, they'll do what ever they want, union or not. So, I choose to keep a good relationship between the brass and the troops. That's the key to a productive work place.

 

[doylehargraves]

a good relationship between the brass and the troops. That's the key to a productive work place.

And where do you buy your crackpipes at?

 

[FRACTRASH]

doylehargraves: crackpipes, that's something I would expect from a high school student. Listen, this is business 101 for god sake. If you took any business courses, it basically means you get more productivity with sugar, not vinegar. Since you're such a business master mind, I hope this helps you with your next exam. Look at the history books, every company who has had a union has been a failed business model. Usually the employees live high on the hoq for a while then something catastrophic happens and the company takes it all back. trust me, I speak from experience.

 

[doylehargraves]

Judging from your grammar, I can tell college was not in your budget. I have 12 years of managerial experience with a $30 billion dollar company and an MBA from a University. This is what I did prior to flying so, it would be in your interest to tone down your anger a little bit and invest in a spell-checker son.

 

[Fozzy]

Doyle
He is just another pilot high on the koolaid. Don't worry, the honeymoon will soon end.
BTW Trash, you guys still training on your "days off"??? Just curious if that change was actually made.
Oh and my 401K (with 50% company match) is doing fine thank you. And no one is going to lay a hand on that.

 

[Diesel]

Judging from your grammar, I can tell college was not in your budget. I have 12 years of managerial experience with a $30 billion dollar company and an MBA from a University. This is what I did prior to flying so, it would be in your interest to tone down your anger a little bit and invest in a spell-checker son.

soooooooo? I mean does anybody really give a s what you did in your past life. Your paycheck is coming from xyz now.

Of course keep wearing that highschool ring and your letter jacket from 20 years ago.

Yet looking at your past 10 posts you seem to be a troll with no experience past or present.

 

[netjetwife]

Fozzy, the 401K deal at NJ is a very good one, isn't it? We looked over the numbers at home and sunk all that we could from the bonus into our account. The company match upped the total nicely. We'll do the same again with the soon-to-arrive 2nd installment of the signing bonus. Works for us...

 

[Fozzy]

NJW,
I believe that we have one of the best 401K's out there! I have not spoken to anyone anywhere in any industy that has it better. It is an additional $7500 in your paycheck this year and only going up every year. (I say this for anyone that does not already know this)
Last year was the first time I was able to max this out. I plan on hitting the Fed limit every year from now on.
And I do not work (training) on my days off. Answer company phone calls on my time off. Or kiss ass to get ahead. Ya the Union is horrible.

 

[CA1900]

You have to love the maturity of tools like you...

Oh, the sweet irony....

 

[netjetwife]

Fozzy, my husband told me the same thing when we went over the TA that was ratified last Nov. He told me he'd rather have the 401K match than a few thousand more in salary. I quickly saw what he meant. You can't just compare wages between the fracs; there's a lot more to consider.

Yes, CA, I noticed that too, but in my mind it started with an "h"....
How tactful of you to call it irony.... I'll remember that for the future...