NetJets 2nd Qtr Earnings

[RP170]

Well if there is no recall ... I like to see how they get through the winter.... Usually there is more flying. And more delays for traffic, wx, de-ice .... It will be miserable.

I guess they can always selloff and just recall whatever the cba requires in the spring.

Or manipulate the sell-off data like it sounds like they are doing with the financial data. Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[av8trinabarrel]

Or manipulate the sell-off data like it sounds like they are doing with the financial data. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I'm holding out faith 170, but I just had a conversation with the wife about this exact scenario. I'm loving the positive momentum, but I'm willing to bet that the numbers are very distorted for Ornstain...ERRR...Sokol! On a side note, I got a call this afternoon from climbto350 about a contract gig in India. The one and only call in 6 months on that worthless site. Recall's must be around the corner if I'm getting a reply from them!

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Well if there is no recall ... I like to see how they get through the winter.... Usually there is more flying. And more delays for traffic, wx, de-ice .... It will be miserable.

I guess they can always selloff and just recall whatever the cba requires in the spring.

The problem is you have far to many PW "pre 05" types that will fly past 14 hours, fly with mx items open, and fly tired. Until ALL the pilots get on board about standing up for the 495 nothing will change.

 

[imacdog]

The survey results from the owners don't reflect this statement, but I'd hate to let facts get in your way... Please, lets hear more gloom and doom about how NetJets is going to close doors tomorrow.:nuts:

No gloom and doom, J. I know you're one of the biggest kool-aid drinkers out there and I'm just passing on information I've heard from owners and their associates that I've talked with. I would sure like recalls to start as my livelihood sort of depends on getting steady paychecks again.

 

[CRJFlyer]

The survey results from the owners don't reflect this statement, but I'd hate to let facts get in your way... Please, lets hear more gloom and doom about how NetJets is going to close doors tomorrow.:nuts:

No way those satisfaction reports can be skewed in favor of the operation....no way at all..

How bad would it look if DS cut staffing/ammenities to the bone AND customer satisfaction tanked...


Have some more grape flavor I've heard it's tasty:laugh:

 

[NCherches]

....They still giving out crew lunches like crazy at NJ?

 

[fischman]

No way those satisfaction reports can be skewed in favor of the operation....no way at all..

How bad would it look if DS cut staffing/ammenities to the bone AND customer satisfaction tanked...


Have some more grape flavor I've heard it's tasty:laugh:

...says the #1 doom and gloom NetJets hater. :erm:

We could report a $500 million 3rd quarter, and all you would say is how Sokol is screwing up the company and we are going to close our doors, and owners are pissed. Take a good look at reality: you are pissed because you were furloughed by Sokol because of the bad decisions of Santulli and blame Sokol. The man literally could have shut us down or kept us running and decided the latter because he knew we could make money (which we are again).

So here's the bottom line. Sokol didn't screw you. Santulli did. NetJets is making money. Owners are happy with the crews. Any questions?

 

[rajflyboy]

...says the #1 doom and gloom NetJets hater. :erm:

We could report a $500 million 3rd quarter, and all you would say is how Sokol is screwing up the company and we are going to close our doors, and owners are pissed. Take a good look at reality: you are pissed because you were furloughed by Sokol because of the bad decisions of Santulli and blame Sokol. The man literally could have shut us down or kept us running and decided the latter because he knew we could make money (which we are again).

So here's the bottom line. Sokol didn't screw you. Santulli did. NetJets is making money. Owners are happy with the crews. Any questions?

So

You obviously don't believe in creative accounting?

 

[gutshotdraw]

So

You obviously don't believe in creative accounting?

Please. Do yourself, our owners, and the company a favor. Don't come back.

 

[CRJFlyer]

...says the #1 doom and gloom NetJets hater. :erm:

We could report a $500 million 3rd quarter, and all you would say is how Sokol is screwing up the company and we are going to close our doors, and owners are pissed. Take a good look at reality: you are pissed because you were furloughed by Sokol because of the bad decisions of Santulli and blame Sokol. The man literally could have shut us down or kept us running and decided the latter because he knew we could make money (which we are again).

So here's the bottom line. Sokol didn't screw you. Santulli did. NetJets is making money. Owners are happy with the crews. Any questions?

I can't possibly be the #1 NJA hater... Maybe 2nd or 3rd.... Maybe Sokol is the one screwing you..Literally.. I'm impressed, his crotch must smell like roses with a hint of ball sweat flavored koolaid.

There, now I've had my fix, feel much better now.Thanks.

And FTR, I've never said the place was gonna be shutdown, or the doors were closing. Or hoped that. I apologize if you take FI this seriously. I on the other hand post for pure enjoyment and in no way, shape or form have a need to defend any thing posted on here. I'm sorry if your life revolves around an anonomous web page.

 

[Helmsalee]

No, Raj is #1.

 

[fischman]

I can't possibly be the #1 NJA hater... Maybe 2nd or 3rd.... Maybe Sokol is the one screwing you..Literally.. I'm impressed, his crotch must smell like roses with a hint of ball sweat flavored koolaid.

There, now I've had my fix, feel much better now.Thanks.

And FTR, I've never said the place was gonna be shutdown, or the doors were closing. Or hoped that. I apologize if you take FI this seriously. I on the other hand post for pure enjoyment and in no way, shape or form have a need to defend any thing posted on here. I'm sorry if your life revolves around an anonomous web page.

That's funny.

 

[rajflyboy]

Please. Do yourself, our owners, and the company a favor. Don't come back.

You need to look at yourself in the mirror when you say this crap.

 

[RP170]

...says the #1 doom and gloom NetJets hater. :erm:

Says the #1 kool-aid drinking NetJets lover. CRJ vs. Fisch in the Octagon is what I propose. I put ALL of my money on CRJ. It wouldn't be pretty (or close).

 

[gutshotdraw]

You need to look at yourself in the mirror when you say this crap.

With apologies to Dear Wormer: "Bitter, lazy and angry is no way to go through life son."

 

[fischman]

Says the #1 kool-aid drinking NetJets lover. CRJ vs. Fisch in the Octagon is what I propose. I put ALL of my money on CRJ. It wouldn't be pretty (or close).

You appear for have forgotten how awesome I am...

 

[rajflyboy]

With apologies to Dear Wormer: "Bitter, lazy and angry is no way to go through life son."

I'm not bitter but I do expect a service for the $$ I spend on something. Whatever that something may be.

 

[Flynetjets]

In my opinion, I don't think you will see recalls for many years. Most people do not realize, the current 495 on the street were NOT hired for aircraft we currently have on the property, they were hired for FUTURE deliveries in 2009 and 2010. If you take a look at the number of pilots and the number of planes, the current pilot to aircraft ratio is around 6.6.

With the company's current plans to continue to decrease fleet size, I do not believe that we will see recalls until the number of aircraft exceed the number of aircraft that we had on the property in 2009.

Just my opinion, but the numbers do speak for themselves.

 

[Pervis]

Just my opinion, but the numbers do speak for themselves.

Look at the company provided numbers for a/c and active pilots on the VSL. That works out to be 5.17 pilots per a/c. Those are the company provided numbers, so if anything, we are short handed per the CBA. There are several fleets in disposal, but until they are sold/gone, the numbers are in our favor for some recalls. Will that happen? Unlikely. We'll probably defer judgement to the same lawyers that sided with company on the per diem issue.

 

[Flynetjets]

Disregard...