My thoughts

[G4dude]

To the pilots of Flops who consistently post on Flight Info:
This thread is a perfect example of why you have become the laughing stock of Flight Options of FO pilots in the eyes of most at flex. You guys are brushed off and not taken seriously at all.

Like "Uncle Kenn", you are an embarrassment to the pilot group at FO. A few reasons why.... Your message always starts packaged in some form of deceit. This message, when delivered, already starting with a loss of credibility, attempts to convince pilots at flex to sell their future to one of the most corrupt outfits (the teamsters) in US history. Combine this with FO's past performance of contract negotiations and you have what most call a "joke". Just the the fact that the IBT hasn't publicly asked you to stop posting your drivel shows what an inept operation they are.

Life at Flex hasn't been perfect, there have been some short falls (especially for furloughees and first officers) but for most of us, we've been treated very well considering the economic state of the last 7+ years. With that being said combined with the lack luster of your contract and your clown show here at flight info, do you understand why the pilot group at flex has discounted the teamsters? Also your message comes across as nothing more than a form of self preservation with no ambition to grow.

Stop posting! Regroup! Figure out a better way that we can all stick together "stick together". Right now we see little value in selling our livelyhood to this form of mediocrity you guys live with and have presented as our future way of life.

This guy has it right.

 

[G4dude]

You can't see it can you?

I'm not blowing smoke, I'm talking from experience, direct experience while all you are doing is aping other's non-factual prejudices. Please enlighten me with what your Teamster experience was....we're all waiting.

Working relationship with your management...that's the real joke. You have new management now, and you know nothing about them. Just because it's the same suit lying to you, he is now working for a new overlord. Are you really too dense to grasp the implications?

Flops guys dealt with those folks and found the Teamsters to be beneficial. You know nothing about who is really running your life but you choose to believe nothing will change as long as you keep your eyes and ears firmly shut.

You must be the guy who doesn't lock his doors in a new neighborhood despite of hearing about recent breakins until they are actually in your living room taking your sh!t....

How sad, another one who refuses to learn from other's hard won experiences.

Ohh, and btw, you're mostly screwing yourself, never mind all your colleagues.

Just curious, how much does the IBT pay you to say this silly stuff?

 

[doh]

G4, his comments are much closer to the truth than anything you have posted about our Flexjet situation. Maybe because you have nothing to do with our company or our parent, so you know nothing of the situation. You expose yourself as a complete tool every time you post about Flex/Flops.

 

[shanes123]

This board is a small percentage of KR defenders been talking to every FJ crew I see on the road and 100 percent of them are gonna vote union already just seeing the changes that already happened or are very very concerned. I have not met one anti union no matter what attitude and everyone of them has been nothing but sharp professional guys. Won't be able to say the sharp part when you get the new uniforms but that's not tbeir fault. And not one of them wants the uniform that actually seemed to be a big contributor to their decision oddly enough even over the 3% 401k loss.

 

[warlord19]

very good post there, el Raton. Unfortunately it will probably only encourage more drivel.

shanes, you didn't take your meds before typing this latest screed, did you?

WL

 

[shanes123]

Why? Did it not make sense ? I have had a few cocktails. Probably a few to many.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

TW. Or should I say Captain Queeq, to sum up your answer, all of the pilots made it thru on schedule?

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

TW. Or should I say Captain Queeq, to sum up your answer, all of the pilots made it thru on schedule?

Once again, I won't comment on the training good/bad of any fellow FJ pilots.

There are many things that could cause a pilot not to finish "on schedule" assuming I understand what you mean by that. Pilots get sick, simulators break, family emergencies happen. Any of these things could happen and cause someone not to finish "on schedule" and they would be at no fault of the pilot.

You can keep asking the same question, and my answer won't change. Pilot training performance good or bad is private. Any professional aviator would understand this.

 

[shanes123]

Sounds like a no.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Sounds like a no.

Sounds like an assumption.

Buddy of mine rode the hotel van with you and your partner in MIA the other day. He was really suprised how you had really nothing bad to say about KR. He was also suprised you didn't jump your FOs stuff when he said he was putting in to come over to FJ.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

TW/Captain Queeg, Everyone has an excuse. No matter the actual facts you have been bought and paid for, so you have to paint a rosy picture.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

TW/Captain Queeg, Everyone has an excuse. No matter the actual facts you have been bought and paid for, so you have to paint a rosy picture.

My answer would have been the same when we were owned by Bombardier.

Professional instructors don't divuldge private information regarding other crewmembers performance.

Once again, if you were a professional yourself you would understand that. The fact that you keep asking and saying that I have been "bought and paid for" goes to show how much of an unprofessional scumbag you are.

I figure since you keep calling me "Capt Queeq" name calling is how you want to play this.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Captain Queeg you seem to have no problem calling me unprofessional and a scumbag. Now back to the question. Your answer went from a NO to now I'm a professional and won't comment.

 

[pilotyip]

Remember FI rule #1 unless you are 100% pro-union and 100% anti-management you will be called names.

 

[warlord19]

TWA, why do you keep sword-fighting with GlorryCab and other GOOBERS who's only weapon is name-calling. Isn't it obvious he is devoid of any concept of professionalism in this industry?
WL