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The fact that he is hopping into complex aircraft without any training in the plane..... thats enough for me.
 
doog said:
I haven't heard any criticism of his oceanic flight planning, international procedures, or applicable training... just a lot of personal attacks including posting a photo. Very professional indeed. If you have specific criticisms, please sir, enlighten us.
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Well departing off a 5800' runway when a 10,000' runway is available less than 10 nm away would certainly be one criticism.

How about having no mechanical backup to transfer fuel to the engines in the case of electrical failure?

And with such limited multi-engine time, I question whether he's really the man to be taking off in a multi-engine aircraft 1500 pounds overweight.

I need to give credit to reading the above points on another pro pilot website, but I felt they were worthy of posting over here.
 
doog said:
I haven't heard any criticism of his oceanic flight planning, international procedures, or applicable training... just a lot of personal attacks including posting a photo. Very professional indeed. If you have specific criticisms, please sir, enlighten us.
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Well the others have already posted what would be my main concerns.

Bottom line he lacks just about every applicable qualification I could come up with.

1. I'd bet he has not been to a reputable international training provider.
2. Has no experience in the aircraft.
3. From the looks of the photos he's posting the preparations made to the aircraft for such a flight are questionable at best. (near impossible emergency egress, no mechanical backup for ferry tank fuel transfer, etc..)
4. The airplane he is doing this in has a very checkered past which I doubt he bothered to look in to before accepting the job.
5. Electing a short runway for departure.

There's more but what's the point ?
 
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Hugh Johnson said:
If you've never done it, you can't comment. Only those of us who have can have an opinion.
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Thats like saying if you have never been the President of the USA then you can't comment on his performance.

Give me a break.

This guy is about to get himself killed. Many people here and on other messages boards have told him so and have tried to help him. He refuses to listen and is quite arrogant in bragging about his on stupidity.
 
HawkDrvr said:
1. I'd bet he has not been to a reputable international training provider.
2. Has no experience in the aircraft.
3. From the looks of the photos he's posting the preparations made to the aircraft for such a flight are questionable at best. (near impossible emergency egress, no mechanical backup for ferry tank fuel transfer, etc..)
4. The airplane he is doing this in has a very checkered past which I doubt he bothered to look in to before accepting the job.
5. Electing a short runway for departure.
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Fair enough!
 
If we didn;t have people like NW Pilot 1000 yrs ago, America would never have been discovered!! The Vikings and later Colombus sure did have some stones!

Imagine launching in a C-172 into areas of FRZA and destination and alternate both reporting 100 OVC! Imagine penetrating a solid line of level 5 and 6 cells! Sounds crazy but the Vikings crossing the Atlantic in the 10th century in makeshift boats knowingly and willfully took risks that are at least as dangerous as the aformention scenarios I mentioned!!


If it weren't for them our lives would not be what they are now!!
 
If we didn;t have people like NW Pilot 1000 yrs ago, America would never have been discovered!! The Vikings and later Colombus sure did have some stones!
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Really. You seemed to have overlooked a few minor points. First of which the Vikings and Columbus were using the then 'state of art' most advanced ships and equiptment of their day. Columbus didn't set off to cross the Atlantic Ocean in a row boat with a couple of bottles of water. He formed a convoy of three ships packed with supplies and had the best navigators of the day on board. Columbus was a very experienced sailor.

No, your analogy is very flawed.

People like NW Pilot cause setbacks in human endeavors of all magnitudes.
 
BOOZENEWS said:
If we didn;t have people like NW Pilot 1000 yrs ago, America would never have been discovered!! The Vikings and later Colombus sure did have some stones!

Imagine launching in a C-172 into areas of FRZA and destination and alternate both reporting 100 OVC! Imagine penetrating a solid line of level 5 and 6 cells! Sounds crazy but the Vikings crossing the Atlantic in the 10th century in makeshift boats knowingly and willfully took risks that are at least as dangerous as the aformention scenarios I mentioned!!


If it weren't for them our lives would not be what they are now!!
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You have a point, unfortunately it has nothing to do with this discussion.

The Vikings were going with what they had and preparing accordingly to further their ambitions in a new world. NW_Pilot isn't doing anything for mankind, just busting out poorly prepared and unqualified without considering all the angles.
 
BOOZENEWS said:
If we didn;t have people like NW Pilot 1000 yrs ago, America would never have been discovered!! The Vikings and later Colombus sure did have some stones!

Imagine launching in a C-172 into areas of FRZA and destination and alternate both reporting 100 OVC! Imagine penetrating a solid line of level 5 and 6 cells! Sounds crazy but the Vikings crossing the Atlantic in the 10th century in makeshift boats knowingly and willfully took risks that are at least as dangerous as the aformention scenarios I mentioned!!


If it weren't for them our lives would not be what they are now!!
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What was the life expectancy for people living during the times of The Vikings and Columbus?

I am guessing about mid thirties or so.

Today the life expectancy is upwards of late 70's.

Of course NW_Pilot is doing his darndest to bring that down a notch.
 
Do any of us really know what kind of preparations NW_Pilot has done? Yeah his slogan sounds kind of reckless but does anybody know what kind of training he has had? I don't and because of that, I'm not going to pass judgment. Goodluck and happy flying NW_pilot
 
navigator72 said:
Do any of us really know what kind of preparations NW_Pilot has done? Yeah his slogan sounds kind of reckless but does anybody know what kind of training he has had? I don't and because of that, I'm not going to pass judgment. Goodluck and happy flying NW_pilot
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On another site he told someone he would be happy to ferry his Lear 24 across the pond. Of course he has no jet time and doesn't know the first thing about high performance jets.

All he wanted was a quick and dirty LJ type and then his friend could come with him who had flown a few Citations.

At first we thought he was kidding.

Nope, he was serious.
 
Interesting

All the pilots with time and experience are saying this guy is friggin nuts.

All the pilots with low time and minimal experience are saying the guy is a trailblazer.

Hmmm
 
His ban is lifted in 14 hours. Maybe he can discuss things like a adult when he comes back.
 
navigator72 said:
Do any of us really know what kind of preparations NW_Pilot has done? Yeah his slogan sounds kind of reckless but does anybody know what kind of training he has had? I don't and because of that, I'm not going to pass judgment. Goodluck and happy flying NW_pilot
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It's not just a jump in and go like most people think it's a hell of a lot of planning.... bad planning you end up in the drink. Thanks for not passing judgment.
 
hgi2006 said:
Well departing off a 5800' runway when a 10,000' runway is available less than 10 nm away would certainly be one criticism.
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Runway length is ok, Ferry Permit limits type of flight over populated areas like the ones surrounding OAK and SFO. Services there are slim for the required operations.

hgi2006 said:
How about having no mechanical backup to transfer fuel to the engines in the case of electrical failure?
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Chance of both alternators failing is slim and pump is hooked to battery directly on 10 amp breakers. Can transfer fuel in to the main 10min and the main pump can run on the battery for 3 hours back up for more than 8.

hgi2006 said:
And with such limited multi-engine time, I question whether he's really the man to be taking off in a multi-engine aircraft 1500 pounds overweight.
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How much overweight experiance do you have?

hgi2006 said:
I need to give credit to reading the above points on another pro pilot website, but I felt they were worthy of posting over here.
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HawkDrvr said:
Well the others have already posted what would be my main concerns.

Bottom line he lacks just about every applicable qualification I could come up with.

1. I'd bet he has not been to a reputable international training provider.
2. Has no experience in the aircraft.
3. From the looks of the photos he's posting the preparations made to the aircraft for such a flight are questionable at best. (near impossible emergency egress, no mechanical backup for ferry tank fuel transfer, etc..)
4. The airplane he is doing this in has a very checkered past which I doubt he bothered to look in to before accepting the job.
5. Electing a short runway for departure.

There's more but what's the point ?
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1, Yes I have! What better than a Ferry Pilot thats done it for more then 30 years!!!!
2, Some Commander Time
3, Not my tank install and is FAA approved.
3, I have a Crash AXE and I will chop through window quick before the water but chance of the tanks not crushing you on impact hahaha... whats the point.
4, Yea I looked!!!
5, Runway length was just fine!!! There is a smaller one here so my choice was right!!!
 
1, Yes I have! What better than a Ferry Pilot thats done it for more then 30 years!!!!
2, Some Commander Time
3, Not my tank install and is FAA approved.
3, I have a Crash AXE and I will chop through window quick before the water but chance of the tanks not crushing you on impact hahaha... whats the point.
4, Yea I looked!!!
5, Runway length was just fine!!! There is a smaller one here so my choice was right!!!
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1.) So you're training under a ferry pilot Yoda using the ferry pilot force?
2.) Define "some." Does this "some" include a thorough checkout and flying the aircraft for any extended period of time or simply a here are the keys, your fee and see ya checkout?
3.) Ha! HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA!
4.) What did you find and was it before some others did the dirty work for you?
5.) I once had my choice of two fat chicks at a bar. I chose the smaller one with a tongue ring. Just because I made the "right" choice doesn't make it a good choice.
3.) HAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!
 
momalley81 said:
Nice creases in the shirt. Must have come right out of the box.

Oh, and you have your eppalettes on backwards.
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Yea, it was just out of the box and photo was used to make a quick ID tag for when landing other places in the world. Them places if you don't look like a pilot and/or have some sort of badge they will not let you back to your airplane let alone pass through security. No matter if it be a 172 or a 737!
 
Why is the trip on hold?

I wouldn't want to be on that trip to HNL but for gods sake these guys act like you are on a suicide mission. It's called PERSONAL CHOICE, you look at all the parameters and decide you can do it and your willing to do it for a price that you and the owner of the a/c that is paying for the ferry flight agree too, I say go for it. As for being labeled a wh#re for doing this too cheap....I say it's capitalism. As for the guys that think you are wh#ring yourself out and doing this too cheap well maybe they should start a ferry company and charge what they feel is appropiate and do a better job than you and put you out of business.

Dirt
 
DIRT said:
I wouldn't want to be on that trip to HNL but for gods sake these guys act like you are on a suicide mission. It's called PERSONAL CHOICE, you look at all the parameters and decide you can do it and your willing to do it for a price that you and the owner of the a/c that is paying for the ferry flight agree too, I say go for it. As for being labeled a wh#re for doing this too cheap....I say it's capitalism. As for the guys that think you are wh#ring yourself out and doing this too cheap well maybe they should start a ferry company and charge what they feel is appropiate and do a better job than you and put you out of business.

Dirt
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Thanks I agree! Watch your spelling they will punish you for that!!!
 
NW_Pilot said:
Them places if you don't look like a pilot and/or have some sort of badge they will not let you back to your airplane let alone pass through security.
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Wow thats ironic, because you dont look like a pilot in the first place. More like a short little Napoleon with a death wish.
 
momalley81 said:
I am still intrigued by your just out of the box pilot shirt and your backwards eppallettes. How did you take that picture with a straight face
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Not sure it's a straight face!!! Was a fun night playing around with Photo Shop and drinking beers haahahaha! Glad your getting a laugh out of it.
 
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