Moving up to management

[PCL_128]

That is unfair you knowq I can;t speel. BTW I did not know you were my 2nd grade grammar teacher, you still take your teeth out at night?

Yet more proof of the ignorance of incompetence of management. You would think someone in a fancy management office could at least spell simple words.

 

[Redmeat]

Yet more proof of the ignorance of incompetence of management. You would think someone in a fancy management office could at least spell simple words.

There ain't no "fancy" offices on Willow Run Airport.

TRUST ME.

Not even at the FSDO.

The place has become a dump and is literally right next to one. But that's the state of Michigan in a nut shell.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

It sounds to me like you want to be home every night and fly when you feel like flying. I recommend you get the MBA, get a desk job outside of aviation that actually pays well, and fly for fun on the side.

If you want to fly, then fly. If you want to manage, then manage.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Paint your nose brown & and insert it into the "up lock" position.... formulate plan to screw some more change out of the employees and you should be golden!
uke:
oh yeah, buy stock in Bayer and [SIZE=-1]Pfizer Pharmaceuticals [/SIZE]because you will be consuming you fair share of aspirin and rolaids.........

R-O-L-A-I-D-S Spells Relief®

 

[Captzaahlie]

Flight ops departments do not run themselves. I know, just ask management and they'll tell you. Seriously, it is a noble thing to take up: a desk, countless meetings, an enormous budget, middle-of-the-night phone calls, the FAA, SBOAs, hiring, firing, office politics, political correctness at its apex, gaining 25 lbs., drinking more heavily, knowing that every line pilot thinks you're a buffoon and he could do it better, lower paying, working 5+ extra days a month position in management.

Given the job description, you are either unmarried, very amitious, very motivated, OCD, a glutton, miserable, brilliant, or really passionate about enforcing change in an industry that desperately needs it. If you are the later and can do the job and remain intelletually honest and quit the day you have to compromise; then I say, BRAVO and go for it. If not, DO NOT attempt it. Management has important positions to fill and unfortunately, they are filled with self-promoting turds with rare exception.

Good Luck!

Dunster is that u?

 

[BlueBusDriver]

Up?

Did he say "moving UP to managment"?
I guess I've never thought of it as a move "UP".

 

[bravodude]

They didn't teach you how to write in paragraphs or how to spell when you got that fancy MBA degree?

Just like they didnt teach you to stand up to mgt. the verry people you are bashing here and say no to charging peole $35 to ride the jumpseat.

 

[Kharma Police]

Just like they didnt teach you to stand up to mgt. the verry people you are bashing here and say no to charging peole $35 to ride the jumpseat.

We are not charging anymore dude. Too bad you won't be able to staple us!

 

[mamba20]

But would imagine you would give up pay and days off to come into the management ranks.

Right up until the point where its raped off the hard work of the employees, while he's out playing golf.

 

[pilotyip]

you have no idea

But would imagine you would give up pay and days off to come into the management ranks.

Right up until the point where its raped off the hard work of the employees, while he's out playing golf.

You have obliviously never been airline middle management. Maybe CEO's go out and play golf. The rest of us work 50-60 hours a week mostly 6 days to keep the airline running. On call 24 hrs a day to answer questions, resolve issues and give guidance to crewmembers that do not understand the GOM. My idea of a fun day out of the office is getting out and flying. BTW Flying an airplane for a living is a great job and I am envious of every one of you that gets to do that for a living.

 

[PCL_128]

You have obliviously never been airline middle management.

Naw, unlike you, he has too much integrity for that.

 

[MINIME]

I know I don't have alot of respect for most management types, but Pilotyip doesn't strike me as someone who's intentionally out to screw his pilots. For those that are somewhat attacking him, I think he's gutsy for even admitting he's management.

Not all management types are equal. I have a real problem with those that try to enrich themselves, elevate themselves to upper management by screwing his fellow employees. We all know who those types are within our own boundaries.

 

[pilotyip]

lost soles

Naw, unlike you, he has too much integrity for that.

You truly are one of those lost soles in the flying world that still thinks that skill and desire are more important than luck and timing. In 1982 at 39, you would be unemployed, in 1992 at age 49, you would be unemployed, and in 2002 at age 59 you would be lucky to find a job anywhere, one must take care of their family. I am truly lucky to be here, it has been an adventure, I think I would change little.

 

[PCL_128]

You truly are one of those lost soles

Lost "soles?" No, all of my shoes have their soles intact. Or were you trying to spell lost souls? I gess hookd on foniks didunt werk for yu.

 

[pilotyip]

speelied

Lost "soles?" No, all of my shoes have their soles intact. Or were you trying to spell lost souls? I gess hookd on foniks didunt werk for yu.

Hey it is sppelied corrctly what else do you want, you are one of those guys who is never happy, always whining, always bitching, you have to look at the bright, which I know is impossible for you, but you are alive, you have great job, and so much for which to be thankful.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Hey it is sppelied corrctly what else do you want, you are one of those guys who is never happy, always whining, always bitching, you have to look at the bright, which I know is impossible for you, but you are alive, you have great job, and so much for which to be thankful.

Pilotyip I got your point the first time so what does a "typo" really matter?

PEE_C_HELL128, What does it matter if the dude wants to be management and cant spell, hell I want to write a book one day and I can't spell, nor can I seem to not create the worlds longest run on sentences!

Sometimes I type something out 'on the run' via my tiny Treo's keyboard and I don't have a spell checker available to me. BFD! I'm just so glad (insert sarcasm here) there is someone like PCl_128 around to point out the obvious to us.... (end sarcasm) I get tried of the constant bitching in this industry too, sometimes I just want to take up an collection for the crybabies and see if [FONT=TREBUCHET, ARIAL, HELVETICA]Dr. Jack Kevorkian[/FONT] is available to help you guys out......................

Now here's my attempt to brighten things up a bit:

Do you know what is long black and hangs in front of an ash*le?

A Captain's necktie.....

No wonder FA's , gate agents, hotel van drivers, and FO's think that joke is funny. We have sooooo many disgruntled, negative [SIZE=-1]"prima donnas" [/SIZE] running around thinking things are owed to them and their stuff doesn't stink because they are airline pilots!
:angryfire

 

[Redmeat]

Do you know what is long black and hangs in front of an ash*le?

A Captain's necktie.....

I love that one. My wife always uses this one on me, hehe:

Do you know what pilots use for birth control?

Their personalities.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Dp!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Captzaahlie]

I love that one. My wife always uses this one on me, hehe:

Do you know what pilots use for birth control?

Their personalities.

I know the joke below isn't true because I married a "sky goddess"!

What is the difference between a flight attendant and a limousine?
​

Not everyone has been in a limo before!
:laugh:
​

 

[jke406]

Lost "soles?" No, all of my shoes have their soles intact. Or were you trying to spell lost souls? I gess hookd on foniks didunt werk for yu.

Spoken like a true union stooge.