More planes for ExpressJet

[Baronman]

what is the source of this new rumor/informtion? Care to share any details

A union blastmail last night sent to XJT pilots. Again, they're not saying that there is an order, only that the company would like to negotiate rates looking ahead at new opportunities.

 

[ASADriver]

The irony here is that it looks like the LXJT group are going to be the sellouts now. They are pushing a PBS system that management wants because it is more effecient and now they are going to negotiate lower rates for 70-90 seat flying. Oh the irony. Of course that group has negotiated concessions before.

 

[Nevets]

No new planes yet. The company just wants to bid on flying.... For when they drop the axe on the 145s.

In the end they'll probably be a 2:1 swap ( net decrease) for $5/hr more. Nothing to get too exited over.

The CAL CPA calls for replacement of 75 ERJs with larger aircraft as leases expire and addition of 15 growth aircraft. The leases begin to expire sometime later this year and the last lease expires in 2021.

A union blastmail last night sent to XJT pilots. Again, they're not saying that there is an order, only that the company would like to negotiate rates looking ahead at new opportunities.

Looking back and rereading our contract, it doesn't say that. Section 26 is written the way it is to gain as much leverage as possible. It's not a what if type scenario. There has to be some concrete aircraft. As much as I hate the whole "managing expectations" aspect of these type of deals, I'm sure that is what our MEC is doing here. Treading lightly.

The irony here is that it looks like the LXJT group are going to be the sellouts now. They are pushing a PBS system that management wants because it is more effecient and now they are going to negotiate lower rates for 70-90 seat flying. Oh the irony. Of course that group has negotiated concessions before.

If that's true than maybe you need to get on board!. By the way, our concessionary 50 seat compensation is still within a percentage or two of your 76 compensation.

 

[Speedtape]

What about the part that the total UNITED Xpress fleet has to be reduced by about 130 aircraft? So, if this is the case, where will those planes come from?

 

[SAABaroowski]

BINGO! These rates will go to arbitration per the current XJT CBA if (when) no agreement is reached on pay rates. The industry standard is well below the current ASA rates.....It's really sad watching a bunch of 20 and 30 something XJT pilots think they can outsmart Jerry....

By the way....It's not "more" airplanes for XJT...It's going to be like the Delta deal...Bigger airplanes, but fewer of them....

I'm one of the 30 you speak of, and that's not the case at all

 

[Plainsman]

You are 30 or you are one of the 30?

 

[SAABaroowski]

I'm 32, lol and would imagine I'm one of the "30" guys he speaks of. I would imagine he is referring to the XJT MEC, Scheduling Com & Neg com

 

[Nevets]

What about the part that the total UNITED Xpress fleet has to be reduced by about 130 aircraft? So, if this is the case, where will those planes come from?

That only happens IF they increase the number of 76 seat aircraft above 153 BUT that can only happen IF UAL buys 100 seat aircraft BUT that cannot START to happen until 2016. Also, right now UAL has about thirty-five "76 seat" aircraft and that cannot increase until 2014.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

How much money would have to be invested for smartPref to be implemented?

 

[dojetdriver]

How much money would have to be invested for smartPref to be implemented?

Probably LESS than Aceydays, Aceypalooza, SureJet, and whatver else they like to waste money on. Nevermind the " 70 million dollars in synergies".

TFAYD!

 

[jetstream]

Is there someway we can just dump LXJ? I'm sick of these guys.

 

[Abernathy]

Hey I got an idea. Let's cap the CA payscale at 8 years and raise the FO payscale 25%.

You know. In order to stay competitive.

 

[Nevets]

How much money would have to be invested for smartPref to be implemented?

I don't know but it's already been used last month for the EWR base. So some of the implementation cost has already been paid for by the company.

 

[drinksonme]

Is there someway we can just dump LXJ? I'm sick of these guys.

Call Jerry and see

 

[mckpickle]

How much money would have to be invested for smartPref to be implemented?

Other than the cost for 3 of us to be offline to do this work....zero. Which one of us would be offline for the merger stuff anyway. Crewing solutions has been baring the costs of this for the last 12-18 months. The company hasn't paid them a cent yet.