More Mesa UA flying gone!

[Ameriagle]

Actually not. In my case, I even refused to apply to Comair until after they dropped the PFT. It cost me quite a bit of seniority but I refused to compromise my principals. As such, I would do something else before I would ever work for Mesa as I refuse to contribute to the degradation of the industry.

The regional industry is built on naive 23 year olds with a stack of resumes in their hand just hoping for a call. At 23 I was one of them unfortunately! I applied at Mesa, among others, and Comair called, go figure! Many of the "haters" on this board are part of that crowd. Just read their post, it's easy to see! I see alot of irony in your perspective. You refused to apply at Comair until they dropped PFT, however you reaped the benefit of a career built on the backs of pilots willing to pay for a job. How are your principles that much different than a Mesa pilot's?

 

[Fltlvls]

The Mesa-Sucks crowd bases it's bias on a simple list of negative vs. positive. The number of negative aspects vs. positive aspects is overwhelming. That's how sane, common sense people come to their conclusions. And the conclusion on Mesa is: it is a bottom feeder that has, for years, done major damage to the regional airline industry in a variety of ways. There are many facts to back up the Mesa Sucks montra. If you do a search, it won't take long to come to the only sensible conclusion many already know. MESA is a BAD, BAD Place.
End of story.

Another cut and paste from the many thousands of posts about Mesa on this forum..Sad that is the extent of your aviation knowledge and vocabulary.

 

[SEVEN]

Mesa suck, suck, suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqk0LsW-zCw

 

[hou757]

The Mesa-Sucks crowd bases it's bias on a simple list of negative vs. positive. The number of negative aspects vs. positive aspects is overwhelming. That's how sane, common sense people come to their conclusions. And the conclusion on Mesa is: it is a bottom feeder that has, for years, done major damage to the regional airline industry in a variety of ways. There are many facts to back up the Mesa Sucks montra. If you do a search, it won't take long to come to the only sensible conclusion many already know. MESA is a BAD, BAD Place.
End of story.

Guy's, It's not worth even responding to SEVEN. Unfortunately many of his arguments against Mesa can be turned around to even his own airline.

Mesa pilots, even though we have many harsh feelings against your management we all feel bad for what's happening to your jobs. Hang in there.

 

[SEVEN]

Another Classic!!

I'll keep 'um coming 'til Bankruptcy.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppnm5-7rbk

 

[Fltlvls]

Great idea. NOT. Maybe you could explain who will fly the passengers from Iron Mountain MI to DTW or MSP. Good luck trying to get a 757 in there. Those guys can't even land on the runway let alone a short runway. Are you familiar with the term "hub and spoke" system? It's the way the ariline industry is set up. If you "cut" the puppet strings, there will be no one to bring the passengers from the smaller cities to the hubs for the real pilots to take them to their destination. So, your proposed solution would collapse the entire industry.

Sounds like it made you nervous ..You worried about losing your job?..You should be nervous because you could be next one on the unemployment line.

 

[Ameriagle]

The Mesa-Sucks crowd bases it's bias on a simple list of negative vs. positive. The number of negative aspects vs. positive aspects is overwhelming. That's how sane, common sense people come to their conclusions. And the conclusion on Mesa is: it is a bottom feeder that has, for years, done major damage to the regional airline industry in a variety of ways. There are many facts to back up the Mesa Sucks montra. If you do a search, it won't take long to come to the only sensible conclusion many already know. MESA is a BAD, BAD Place.
End of story.

I agree that Mesa is not anywhere I would want to work, I'm glad they never called me. My point is many of those throwing stones do so from a glass house.

 

[SEVEN]

Says the "Mesa Sucks" crowd!

Hey buddy...these are the tool bags you are defending!!! Please stop. As you watch this video, please reflect on your position of Mesa. I forgive you for your support of this pathetic group of pilots. We all make mistakes.
uke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hso2OqFGZwg:smash:

 

[Scope out RJ's]

KEEEEESSSSS my aaaasssss you turd burglar!!!

I get paid more per segment, seat mile, passenger...whatever you wanna call it...I get paid more per whatever, to fly my stupid little RJ than most mainline guys.

So pucker up and start sucking, because after all, those mainline guys are the low-ballers by some measures!!!

Nanner nanner booo booo!!!

Giving out BJ's to supplement your piss poor income flying your POS rj is nothing to brag about skooter!

 

[Ameriagle]

Hey buddy...these are the tool bags you are defending!!! Please stop. As you watch this video, please reflect on your position of Mesa. I forgive you for your support of this pathetic group of pilots. We all make mistakes.
uke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hso2OqFGZwg:smash:

I don't care if you forgive me or not, buddy!

 

[PA31Driver]

You are incorrect. These are NOT our fellow pilots. These guys and gals are the enemy. They are now getting what that should have gotten years ago. Mesa is a plague; pure and simple. They must be stopped at any cost. They have destroyed the way of life for many, but they are going to be defeated. Period.

:uzi:MESA/FREEDUMB:smash:

So says the guy working for Mesaba!:laugh:

 

[SEVEN]

So says the guy working for Mesaba!:laugh:

Good one.

 

[SEVEN]

I don't care if you forgive me or not, buddy!

I am being sarcastic of course. I just have a hard time understanding how an individual could support a place like Mesa and the pilots that choose to work there. It's like defending the devil. What kind of person can twist reality enough to justify anything positive about that place. It's incomprehensible. It's beyond rational thought.

 

[USCtrojan]

Is Denver a Dash and CRJ700 base for Mesa or just a Dash base?

Trojan

 

[Fltlvls]

I am being sarcastic of course. I just have a hard time understanding how an individual could support a place like Mesa and the pilots that choose to work there. It's like defending the devil. What kind of person can twist reality enough to justify anything positive about that place. It's incomprehensible. It's beyond rational thought.

Do you shop at Wal-Mart?...If so then you are supporting a company that pays low wages and lower than standard working conditions and undercuts their competition.I hear they are hiring ,you interested?

 

[SEVEN]

Do you shop at Wal-Mart?...If so then you are supporting a company that pays low wages and lower than standard working conditions and undercuts their competition.I hear they are hiring ,you interested?

Nice try. Wal-mart isn't suppose to be a profession. Neither is Burger King. Airline pilots should have higher standards. Mesa management and those that choose to work there are doing everything in their power to make the pilot profession the same as a greeter at Wal-mart. They will fail in the end though. Last time I checked, their shareholders weren't too confident. Sell, sell, sell! Get out while you can.

 

[Fltlvls]

Nice try. Wal-mart isn't suppose to be a profession. Neither is Burger King. Airline pilots should have higher standards. Mesa management and those that choose to work there are doing everything in their power to make the pilot profession the same as a greeter at Wal-mart. They will fail in the end though. Last time I checked, their shareholders weren't too confident. Sell, sell, sell! Get out while you can.

I got out..I'm sure if you lose your job then you will choose to work at one of the places you mentioned.Regionals will never be a higher standard in aviation because of their childish and unprofessional behavior regarding who has more or less than the other.If you have a job these days then that is a good thing regardless of the company or the profession and the working conditions.Don't give me that crap about you would rather not have a job at all or rather work at a fast food place than be at Mesa or any other regional.If so, then i feel sorry for you and your family if you have one.Why are you still at XJ in the 340?..There is a shorter list of companies to compare your pay on a T-Prop for your next contract.

 

[SEVEN]

I got out..I'm sure if you lose your job then you will choose to work at one of the places you mentioned.Regionals will never be a higher standard in aviation because of their childish and unprofessional behavior regarding who has more or less than the other.If you have a job these days then that is a good thing regardless of the company or the profession and the working conditions.Don't give me that crap about you would rather not have a job at all or rather work at a fast food place than be at Mesa or any other regional.If so, then i feel sorry for you and your family if you have one.Why are you still at XJ in the 340?..There is a shorter list of companies to compare your pay on a T-Prop for your next contract.

All of Mesaba's props will be gone in less than 3 years. In case you hadn't noticed, the payrates after bankruptcy were forced on us through the judge and the courts. To answer your question, I would work outside of aviation as opposed to a job at Mesa. Not only does the pay suck, but the QOL is almost non existent especially if you're a commuter. I would not put my family through that horror intentionally. I would rather work at Mcdonalds and see my family than work at Mesa and never see them. Also, I would rather collect unemployment than work for Mesa....did it before and will do it again if it comes to that. I won't sell my soul to the devil. Mesa still sucks....even to the last day when the doors are finally closed.

 

[Fltlvls]

All of Mesaba's props will be gone in less than 3 years. In case you hadn't noticed, the payrates after bankruptcy were forced on us through the judge and the courts. To answer your question, I would work outside of aviation as opposed to a job at Mesa. Not only does the pay suck, but the QOL is almost non existent especially if you're a commuter. I would not put my family through that horror intentionally. I would rather work at Mcdonalds and see my family than work at Mesa and never see them. Also, I would rather collect unemployment than work for Mesa....did it before and will do it again if it comes to that. I won't sell my soul to the devil. Mesa still sucks....even to the last day when the doors are finally closed.

Too bad you feel that way...Then you do not deserve to be in this profession and should look for something outside of aviation given your animosity towards it and others involved.I'm sure a 4 day trip with you would be very long and stressful..Good Luck in whatever happens.

 

[Broke in CVG]

You refused to apply at Comair until they dropped PFT, however you reaped the benefit of a career built on the backs of pilots willing to pay for a job. How are your principles that much different than a Mesa pilot's?

So you are inferring that PFT built Comair and I rode the coattails? To the contrary, it was people like me that stood up and refused to go to Comair UNTIL they removed the PFT that help improve the QOL of the industry. Had people continued to fork over the $10k then Comair would have continued to gladly accept it. I don't know any other profession that requires you to pay an employer to work there. It's wrong and I refused to do it.

Had pilots refused to go to Mesa and choose to wait it out or take other postions until they could get hired by a "reputable" airline then Mesa would have either had to change or die. However, they didn't do either because they had an ample supply of SJS pilots. It's the same as a girl who marries an abusive man and looks at like an abusive husband is better than no husband.

I am highly offended that you would even compare a Comair, Eagle, ASA, etc, etc pilot to a Mesa pilot.