More drama? 2nd run at Frontier?

[hoover84]

I wish no pilot group ill will, but I do have one question. When did jet blue get a contract?

We do have a contract....just 2300 of them

 

[Otto77]

I wish no pilot group ill will, but I do have one question. When did jet blue get a contract?

Not a contract per say but changes to our PEA that defines scope.

 

[Grey Ghost]

The Frontier employees took it up the butt in order to "Save the Animals" and this is the thanks they get?

Thanks Brian!
Gup

BB has a knack for doing this to his employee groups. He's Broke one day and places million dollar orders the next???

 

[Otto77]

JetBlue could be suitor for Frontier Airlines, analyst says
Airline consultant Jay Sorensen said JetBlue Airways could be a potential buyer of Frontier Airlines. JetBlue and Frontier have similar fleets of aircraft, and Frontier serves markets such as Milwaukee and Kansas City that could allow JetBlue to expand. "Whoever might buy the airline may only do so to reduce competition or because they find some value in the pieces that are left," Sorensen said. American City Business Journals/Milwaukee/Milwaukee BizTalk (11/

 

[airplane wizard]

Plus, they both have Direct TV.

 

[Flyby1206]

B6/F9 is a horrible idea. Sure they both operate Busses and have LiveTV, but that is hardly a good reason to buy/merge. DEN, MKE, MCI hubs are useless for the B6 business model. B6/VX would make much more sense in my opinion.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

B6/F9 is a horrible idea. Sure they both operate Busses and have LiveTV, but that is hardly a good reason to buy/merge. DEN, MKE, MCI hubs are useless for the B6 business model. B6/VX would make much more sense in my opinion.

Agree.

I hope management feels the same way. I think picking up frontier is a bad move.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

So what would they do with the 30 something e190's they have now? Junk 'em? What about the ones F9 has? Seems like a hell of a waste of money.

Send em back on the banana boat....

 

[CapnVegetto]

It's not horrible. B6's biggest weakness is no domestic route structure. F9 would fix that. B6 wants to get into south America with bigger equipment. Where in the he'll is the feed? Right now it's nonexistent.

 

[Flyby1206]

It's not horrible. B6's biggest weakness is no domestic route structure. F9 would fix that. B6 wants to get into south America with bigger equipment. Where in the he'll is the feed? Right now it's nonexistent.

I agree that there needs to be feed to support an international operation, but the network structure of F9 focuses on MKE/MCI/DEN hubbed operations. I dont believe those would be good choices as a launchpad for S. America ops.

Widebody hubs need to be placed in large metropolitan areas that can support a lot of O&D traffic, and at an airport large enough to handle a serious amount of connecting passenger traffic. B6 hubs are already well positioned for that widebody expansion.

 

[$$$4nothin]

It's not horrible. B6's biggest weakness is no domestic route structure. F9 would fix that. B6 wants to get into south America with bigger equipment. Where in the he'll is the feed? Right now it's nonexistent.

MCI, MKE, might not work well with the B6 structure but all of the LGA and DCA slots do. This includes flights from NY, DC, to DEN markets. The Hubs B6 has definately work better for wide body flying but some of the routes that F9 has would definately work well into the B6 system. Also all of the flying F9 does in and out of MCO. I personally don't want any part of anything that has to do with BB. I would much prefer an AA or SW merger. I would prefer an AA or SW staple to anything Brian Bedford related. That man is the Devil and nothing good from a pilots point of view comes from him. Plain and simple.

 

[Otto77]

If anything I would think it would be a slot/ assets move for B6. Shed the routes that are not profitable and keep the rest. Offer preferential interviews to F9 guys.

 

[Flyby1206]

F9 has already said they are willing to sell off slots that they have at DCA/LGA. Why buy the whole cow when you can just buy a glass of milk for a fraction of the price?

There is a LGA/DCA slot auction that ends around Thanksgiving. If B6 doesnt get some good slots then I say they will look to F9 for some

 

[Otto77]

F9 has already said they are willing to sell off slots that they have at DCA/LGA. Why buy the whole cow when you can just buy a glass of milk for a fraction of the price?

There is a LGA/DCA slot auction that ends around Thanksgiving. If B6 doesnt get some good slots then I say they will look to F9 for some

I like this scenario much more than ending up with F9. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

Was BB at FSC a few months ago? I remember hearing something about it.

 

[Flyby1206]

I like this scenario much more than ending up with F9. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

Was BB at FSC a few months ago? I remember hearing something about it.

I wouldnt be surprised. I've heard Dave tell a group of us that Frontier has been pitched to him over half a dozen times.

 

[Quimby]

MCI, MKE, might not work well with the B6 structure but all of the LGA and DCA slots do. This includes flights from NY, DC, to DEN markets. The Hubs B6 has definately work better for wide body flying but some of the routes that F9 has would definately work well into the B6 system. Also all of the flying F9 does in and out of MCO. I personally don't want any part of anything that has to do with BB. I would much prefer an AA or SW merger. I would prefer an AA or SW staple to anything Brian Bedford related. That man is the Devil and nothing good from a pilots point of view comes from him. Plain and simple.

I'm guessing you would change your mind after an announcement was made.

 

[CapnVegetto]

I'd like to see us get some bases othe than the $hitty ones we have now. From a purely selfish standpoint.

 

[CapnVegetto]

I'm guessing you would change your mind after an announcement was made.

Hell no. I'd be dancing in the streets with an AA staple tomorrow. I'd be a widebody captain in 10-12 years at a legacy carrier. A WN staple would stagnate my career a bit but I'd get an immediate payraise and more base choices after a short wait.

I'd be super happy either way. I'm junior, so I could give a crap about a staple. I'll be at the bottom either way.

 

[tankerhead]

One day, someone's likely to dig up that post and repeatedly dangle it about for all to see. Just sayin.

 

[GuppyWN]

At least he's being honest.