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I dont, judgment this bad cannot be limited to his politics. What if he strongly disagrees with a flight operation procedure or manufacturer's guideline
 
i don't have any problems with the screening of pilots. how hard is it to replicate a pilot uniform and a little plastic badge? Which really raises other security concerns. These terrorist organizations have millions of dollars to work with, I sure then can shell out a few dollars to get a uniform and plastic card.

Yeah but would they get the cocky attitude and big watch wearing right?
Don't forget about cruising through the seating areas looking for a USA today....
these are things you can't teach in those terrorist camps!
 
Darn, you guys are pretty rough on a guy who is taking a stand for all you whining wussies. No amount of explanation will be enough for those of you asleep, or those content with the speed at which your hamster wheel turns.
This guy, M.Roberts, gets it , but sadly most don't.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
-Samuel Adams-
 
http://www.naturalnews.com/030100_naked_body_scanners_airport.html


Tuesday, October 19, 2010
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com
(NaturalNews) I encountered my first airport naked body scanner while flying out of California today, and of course I decided to "opt out" of the scan. You do this by telling the blue-shirted TSA agents that you simply wish to opt out of the body scanner. Here's what happened after that:

A TSA agent told me to step to the side and stay put. He then proceeded to shout out loudly enough for all the other travelers and TSA agents to hear, "OPT OUT! OPT OUT!" This is no doubt designed to attract attention (or perhaps humiliation) to those who choose to opt out of the naked body scanner. I saw no purpose for this verbal alert because the same TSA agent who was yelling this ultimately was the one who patted me down anyway.

For the pat down, first I was required to walk through the regular metal detector. From there, I was asked if I wanted to be patted down in a private room, or if I didn't mind just being patted down in full view of everyone else. Not being a shy person in the first place, I told the agent I didn't need a private room.

He then explained to me that he was going to pat down my entire body, including my crotch and my buttocks, but that he would use the back of his hands to pat down the crotch and buttocks areas. This is probably designed to make the pat-down seem less "personal" and more detached. That way, air passengers can't complain of being felt up by TSA agents who might get carried away with the pat-down procedure. He asked if it hurt for me to be touched anywhere, and I told him no, at which point he proceeded with the pat down.

It was a well-scripted pat-down, covering all the areas of my body, including a mild crotch sweep (it wasn't especially invasive or anything, as doctors will do far worse during a physical exam). He swept my arms, legs, hips, back of the neck, ankles and everywhere else. To the TSA's credit, this guy was fast, efficient and only used a light touch that was in no way disturbing. But it did take an extra five minutes or so compared to walking through the naked body scanner.

Speaking of the naked body scanners, as I was having my crotch swept by the back of the hand of this TSA agent, I was observing other air travelers subjecting themselves to the naked body scanners. They were told to walk into the body scanner staging area and then hold their arms in the air in a pose as if they were under arrest. They were told to freeze in this position for several seconds (perhaps 10 seconds) during which they were being blasted with ionizing radiation that we all know contributes to cancer.

The TSA, of course, will tell you that these machines can't possibly contribute to cancer. But they said the same thing about mammograms, and we now know that mammograms are so harmful to women's health that they actually harm ten women for everyone one woman they help (http://www.naturalnews.com/020829.html). So I'm not exactly taking the U.S. government at its word that naked body scanner radiation is "harmless."

As these air travelers were being scanned, their naked body images were appearing on a screen somewhere, of course. Some TSA agent was examining the naked body shape and contours of all these people, and even though we were told by the TSA that the image viewing machines cannot store images, we have since learned that the machines actually do have the capability to store those images (http://www.naturalnews.com/029378_f...). In addition, rogue TSA employees could simply use their cell phones to take snapshots of what they see on the screen. There are no doubt rules against such behavior, but it's bound to happen sooner or later.

Meanwhile, my own security screening was proceeding fully clothed. I don't want to broadcast my naked butt cheeks on the TSA's graphic monitors, thank you very much!

Very few people opt out of the naked body scanners

The most fascinating part about this entire process was not the verbal broadcast of my opt out status, nor having my crotch swept by the latex-covered back hand of some anonymous TSA agent, but rather the curious fact that I was the only one opting out. Although I must have watched at least a hundred people go through this particular security checkpoint, there wasn't a single other person who opted out of the naked body scan.

They all just lined up like cattle to have their bodies scanned with ionizing radiation.

To me, that's just fascinating. That when people are given a choice to opt out of being irradiated, they will choose to just go along with the naked body scan rather than risk standing out by requesting to opt out.

You see, I'm not convinced that the TSA's naked body scanners enhance air travel security at all. Previous security tests conducted by the FAA show quite clearly that the greatest threat to airplane safety isn't from the passengers but from ground crews, where bombs and other materials can be quite easily smuggled onto planes.

But even though naked body scanners may not enhance air travel security, they do accomplish something far more intriguing: The successful completion of an experiment in human behavior. If you were to pose the question "Will people line up like cattle to be electronically undressed in front of government security officers?" The answer is now unequivocally YES!

Most people, it turns out, will simply do whatever they're told by government authorities, even if it means giving up their privacy or their freedoms. Almost anything can be sold to the public under the guise of "fighting terrorism" these days, including subjecting your body to what is essentially a low-radiation CT scan at the airport!

I don't know about you, but I don't think I should be required to subject myself to ionizing radiation as a condition of air travel security. Of course, the more technically minded readers among you might counter by saying that high-altitude travel is, all by itself, an event that subjects you to low levels of ionizing radiation (which is true). But that's all the more reason to not add the body's radiation burden any more than necessary. Americans already get far too much radiation from CT scans and other medical imaging tests (not to mention mammograms). Do we really need to dose peoples' bodies with yet more radiation every time they board an airplane?
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And virtually no one protests. That's the really amazing part about this.
 
I think the whole point is, why do pilots have to go thru security. Doesn't anybody realize that a pilot can kill everybody on that plain without TSA seeing his junk? I can understand why the general public has to go thru security, and it's up to them what they put up with. But as pilots, where we have to go thru this everyday, it's getting ridiculous. And really makes no since.

And are you saying he doesn't have many kids?

Above the fruited...
 
I'm sorry but that's just stupid. FFDO's walk onto the plane with a gun. They have the same ID and uniform you do genius. Sheeple these days!

No they don't. This discussion shouldn't go further because it involves sensitive information. But they certainly DO NOT have the same ID I have. I'm also not a sheeple, thank you very much. I'm very much a person with a BRAIN that can see when something makes logical sense and when it doesn't. There's a lot of TSA bull-carp that makes no sense. In this particular case, the TSA policy actually does make sense, until such time that there is a secure crew ID system.
 
Yeah, CNN was a fustercluck. All last week was... intense. I didn't sleep for nine days. Didn't even know you could do that. I told my counselors I was an F'd up wreck and couldn't go on tv, but I guess it had to be done. I've had a little rest and am hoping future appearances won't be so jacked. In any case, I'm resolved to keep telling the truth because without it there's no freedom. And our freedom is under assault. I did a radio interview for about an hour that went much better and explained some stuff. More to come...
 
What's your point i don't think they should have weapons on the airplanes either? The FBI and Secret Service have their own aircraft and if they want to take their guns they can take those planes.

My point is that over the years I have seen the proffession deteriorate to the point that that we are nothing more than airborne bus drivers and searches of flight crews in front of their passengers just may be the ultimate insult. The foolishness of searching someone who will be at the controls within a short period is sublimely ridiculous. Even passengers see this and comment on it. Whatever you think about Michael Roberts is irrelevant, He may be the only one announcing that the king has no clothes.
 
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Yeah, CNN was a fustercluck. All last week was... intense. I didn't sleep for nine days. Didn't even know you could do that. I told my counselors I was an F'd up wreck and couldn't go on tv, but I guess it had to be done. I've had a little rest and am hoping future appearances won't be so jacked. In any case, I'm resolved to keep telling the truth because without it there's no freedom. And our freedom is under assault. I did a radio interview for about an hour that went much better and explained some stuff. More to come...


SD, look into Ambien. Its FAA approved. No need to use it all the time, but nice to have around.
 

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