Mesaba Mgmt "Pleas for Sacrifice"

[fly4ever]

Mesabi Miner,

Thanks for the report. Even if you were there for a short time your report makes me proud to have been a part of the Mesaba pilot group (voluntary furlough). It makes me feel good to know that the feelings among the group are nearly, if not fully, unanimous. It sends a message that must be taken seriously if any of those in upper management have even a quarter of a brain. (half a brain was being too complimentary).

I wish I could have been there to express my feelings as well. If he shows up for the meeting tomorrow someone please post an additional report for those of us that don't have the access anymore.

All of the Mesaba employees that remain - stand strong! All of us that have been part of the "family" are watching and we support you 110%.

C-Yaaaa!!!

 

[cougarx530]

DTW Meeting

My favorite was when we asked Billy if he would do his job for $40K a year and stay here at Mesaba, in which he replied with a quick "NO"! Well, Why Not? "Because I couldn't support my family on that wage!" LMFAO! Well-try doing it on less than $30K/year for several years in a row!

I think he got our message that most don't care anymore! Because most of us know that either way this goes (liquidation or impose) we'll be looking for new jobs anyway for the very statement that he made...we couldn't afford to support our families. The reality is that all the company loyalty and love for your job in the world is not going to pay your home mortgage.

B.P. did say we are running out of cash extremely quickly and wishes the union would come back to the table to negotiate. We pointed out that the latest union offer to company is even a longshot at best to ratify. Basically he said they desperately need everything they are asking and explained why, and we told him where we stand, and we almost all agreed (himself included) that if the gap that exists, is indeed each sides bottom line, the company will be closing their doors. It surprised him how well most in the room were comfortable with the reality of that statement.

A rather interesting meeting to say the least! Very informative for what you can believe from them. I think he got a good idea of how the employees truly feel! If you get a chance to go on tuesday,9/12 in DTW, I recommend it! Fly Safe!

 

[Terry Hunter]

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[Whataboutbob]

B.P crew room meetings are designed to do one thing, make everybody believe things are so bleak that your best option is to move on since you won't be able to put food on the table for what there asking. Every pilot they can scare off the seniority list is one dollar in their pocket and if its a senior guy its probably two dollars. When management is ready to talk they will talk. No matter what Billy boy says about running out of cash time is on managements side. When they get the green light to talk from big brother they will be there. Im not going to say or predect what it will be but I believe there will be a T.A to vote on in the future and until then the scare tactics will continue. This whole process is designed to get guys to quit, if they start the 10 day window that is the finale to the scare tactics but at day 9.853 there will be a T.A

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Whataboutbob's got it right.

There's probably some magical average seniority number that they need to hit, and then the carrot will appear. And then we'll see ads in Private Pilot magazine. "Like airplanes? Got two eyes? Send $50k, three Campbell's Soup labels, and an S.A.S.E. to NoobAirUniversity in Eagan, MN. We'll send you the finest DOS-based flight sim money can buy. In about 6 weeks, you too can be in the right seat of a Shiny Jet! Gubment assistance available to those who qualify!"

 

[W&BWiz]

Crunk, that is hilarious!

 

[saabservant]

Heil!

Bump, just to get "der spongenbooben" to the top!
All we need is a picture of him thumbing his tie!

Yeagh, i agree... this is all a seniority flushing exercise. Does'nt change my mind about leaving. We all owe it to ourselves to see this place in the rearview mirror, or in flames, as long as these corrupt jackals are here!

 

[XJohXJ]

It's actually really simple. Bonus money is, by definition: EXTRA MONEY. The immoral corporate leadership at Mesaba just paid themselves over $1 million in bonuses. That means they have EXTRA MONEY!!! If they have millions in EXTRA MONEY to pay themselves, they don't need so much as a stinking red penny from us. They DO NOT have a money problem if they are paying out extravagent corporate bonuses.

 

[Mesabi Miner]

This whole process is designed to get guys to quit, if they start the 10 day window that is the finale to the scare tactics but at day 9.853 there will be a T.A

But will we vote for it? That better be one he11 of a HUGE carrot. 49 Saabs ain't gonna cut it.

MM

 

[Hulk Hogan]

Atleast carrots are pointed so it won't hurt as bad when it's time for penetration.

 

[Whataboutbob]

Will we vote for it?

If management is successful it will get voted through. Who ever is working the strings to the puppets knows what there doing and Im willing to gamble my parents basement bedroom I sleep in that the final offer from Management won't be 19.4% or whatever the current numbers work out to be.

Its like selling a used car, you put $3500 or best offer in the window knowing you really only need to get $3000. You wash it, wax it, and vacuume it so that the presentation makes it look like its worth more than it is. If some idiot pays $3500 bonus if not you bargain and walk away with what you wanted out of it. XJ pilots are smarter than your average bear, the union has been working hard. Its unfortunate that management has wasted so much money trying to makes us fall for there bluff.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

That person who wants big bucks for his crappy bonbo rusted pos car usually gets screwed. All serious people end up going and getting what they want for what it is worth and that idiot from before ends up calling people and begging for previous offers. I don't expect mgt to be forward thinking enough to make a good sale.

 

[XJ-spartacus]

Actually, I believe that with increased resignations the average seniority will increase. It's not the top guys who are leaving this company, it's the middle of the pack and semi-junior guys who are moving out. With fewer pilots, mainly super senior and low seniority guys the average will increase. I hope this back fires on our SLT. The only way Spanjiers will get the message is for our pilot group to deliver it to him.

-Spartacus

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Yeah, I suppose someone with waaaay to much time on their hands could actually sit down and figure out our change in seniority - the Delta S, if you will. (I can't: UNABLE-ICE.)

I bet there are some poorly paid lackies down on Blue Genitalia Ave. going over these numbers right now. . .

"Vas?! Vhat do you mean zer numbers are going up?! Ach mein Gott! Launch another News Lauch!" - Our Glorious Leader Der Spongenbooben

 

[Hulk Hogan]

I guess we wait and see. The blitzkreig (or whatever) starts next month with the closure of the Avro MSP base. The real question is are they (XJ mgt) invading France or Russia? Hopefully the latter. Cya