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HEY MESABA PILOTS!!!

Read these posts from December of 2005.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE PAST 10 MONTHS...

Your management is still dealing you the SAME proposal.

Your Union (which originally told you they WILL NOT give you a sub-par contract), has now recently, and openly, OFFERED at 15% cut to the company.

THEY ARE GIVING 15% (your money) TO YOUR MANAGEMENT!

The company is taking you for a ride, and now the union is driving the sled.

NWA CRJ's have been purchased. They will offer them to MESABA. It is up to YOU to decide if YOU want to be the lowest bidder.

Work and be the lowest bidder pilot-or shut the company down and have dignity.

DO NOT GIVE UP THE FIGHT! Others have...YOU should not!

CHEAP BUMP...of an old thread.

BUT!! Look back at the posts from the past. Remember the emotions, the rationale, the desire.

Never forget those feelings.

Do not give them a dime!

There is life on the other side of the Mesaba wall.
 
The judge ruled

The cards are delt...NWA plans on a shell game with the two of you and NEWCO. Call the bluff, keep your money and get the new jets. They have alot to loose. I feel your pain.
 
Hey guys, am I correct with these pay rates, is this what it would be??
First year FO - 20.08
3rd Year Captain for the CRJ - 51.33
3rd year 70 seat captain - 51.03
2nd year fo - 24.00
If this is true, this is well lower than anyone, I am shocked when i see these numbers.

Good luck guys
 
Hey guys, am I correct with these pay rates, is this what it would be??
First year FO - 20.08
3rd Year Captain for the CRJ - 51.33
3rd year 70 seat captain - 51.03
2nd year fo - 24.00
If this is true, this is well lower than anyone, I am shocked when i see these numbers.

Good luck guys
Those pay rates + have to pay 30% of their benefits, i.e. medical and dental. That's what they are saying on top of those pay rates. I guess all told first year pay will be between $11,000 and $13,000.
 
It will not be in any way livable. Say what you will about SkyWest or Chataqua, but at least their 2nd year FO pay rates are livable, and there are quick upgrades into jobs where at least you are middle class. At Mesaba's proposed rates: 1st Year FO = Poverty. 2nd year FO = Poverty. 3rd year FO = Poverty, and so on. Maybe 5th or 6th year pay starts tickling the very bottom level of livability.

Heath care = virtually none (what good is an HSA if you can't afford to put so much as a thin nickle into it).

Upgrade time = never.
 
Hey guys, am I correct with these pay rates, is this what it would be??
First year FO - 20.08
3rd Year Captain for the CRJ - 51.33
3rd year 70 seat captain - 51.03
2nd year fo - 24.00
If this is true, this is well lower than anyone, I am shocked when i see these numbers.

Good luck guys

There are no 6 year CA at Mesaba let alone 3 year CA. Unfortuntately mesaba2425 is correct. I never thought that the current book would have ever been presented as a TA......
 
I knew it was bad...just not that bad. Even this 15% number I keep hearing your "leader" mention can't be very far off from this steaming pile of @#$@, they are both unacceptable.

They better let you strike...I was looking at the current route map (google Mesaba route map) and a strike or liquidation would really hurt big daddy.
 
As a former XJ'er who used to be proud of Mesaba, I hope you guys close the doors on this POS SLT. You guys deserve better. ALPA National has to pull its head out of the dark recess that it currently occupies, recognize their past failures, and support you guys like they did the Comair pilots a few years back. Good luck.
 
I'm beginning to think NWA just want to get rid of Mesaba.You leave, strike whatever and they void the contract for nonperformance and just start over with a new contractor.They are already dropping the Avro and thats is the A/C that makes the real money.Sad really.
 
Good luck to all of you! As a former XJ'er, I ask you to stand strong; there are plenty of other good jobs out there!

Oh, by the way, if you happen to have a C-550 type and find yourself looking for work, live in or want to live in Vegas or Reno, drop me a PM...

Peace!
 

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