Mesa Pro Stan's Video...Hilarious

[NEDude]

If it is real, then the company, and Pro-Stans, are totally out of line expecting a pilots family member to skip Chemo appointments. Working for UPS isn't worth that, let alone Mesa.

 

[PropPiedmont]

Someone please forward this to the MAG MEC.

PLEASE!!!!!!!

http://allaboutplasticsurgery.com/lips.html

 

[flyby]

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I can see the attempts at humor in this but seeing the facts on working conditions at Mesa takes away all the laughs. I am all for making the most of a crappy situation but this is ridiculous.

There is a culture of disregard, disrespect and downright abuse toward pilots at that airline. The 'actors' in this training film wallow in the indiscretions against them and try to teach their viewers (presumably mesa pilots) common courtesy. You're either courteous, or you're not. This video is a waste of union resources if they're trying to teach Flyin' Ryan to be courteous.

So what was the point, teach us manners or show the viewers that working at Mesa is truly as bad as we all think?

 

[CRJ_Driver]

Mesa Sucks

Such a worthless group of people. I won't talk to, nor acknowledge these skum bags.

To even have to make a video like this indicate the level of skum bags working at this airline. I stopped watching after watching this skum bag get **denied** the jumpseat twice!!

 

[Jetscream32]

Such a worthless group of people. I won't talk to, nor acknowledge these skum bags.

To even have to make a video like this indicate the level of skum bags working at this airline. I stopped watching after watching this skum bag get **denied** the jumpseat twice!!

By reading this thread and responding to the previous posts you are acknowledging us "skum bags" (sic). Do you like your hipocracy served hard boiled or sunny side up?

I am, however, 100% certain you would speak to or acknowledge a Mesa pilot if you needed a free ride somewhere.

 

[phishn@daves]

Such a worthless group of people. I won't talk to, nor acknowledge these skum bags.

To even have to make a video like this indicate the level of skum bags working at this airline. I stopped watching after watching this skum bag get **denied** the jumpseat twice!!

Dude, all I can say is that it must be your attitude. I was in IAD on a really crappy night trying to get to LGA. All of the flights were delayed, except for a HPN flight that was leaving at the same time as the 3 hour delayed LGA. I decided, that since the LGA flight was over-sold and weight limited that I would take the HPN flight. I saw the CA in the terminal and told him my situation ( my car is parked in LGA). He told me he lived near there and he would drive me to my car! This is no joke.

I also talked to the LGA CA and told him what was going on, and he said he wasn't weight limited at all, and got me on his flight to LGA. Since the HPN CA gave me his cell # I called and thanked him, and said I was getting on another flight.

You know, we all came to different regionals for different reasons, QOL, PAY, Base, Upgrade, Timing, or just getting hired there. No reason to bash the MESA guy's. I don't work for them but the ones I have met have been some of the nicest guy's/girls out there.

CRJ_Driver, you are a Dick!

Get over your 2000 hr FO self.

 

[trip]

Watched about 4 minutes worth and some dork with spiked hair and thumb ring played the good-jumpseater bad-jumpseater role. I think I'll go throw-up now.

 

[chucknorris]

gay....

 

[Sam Snead]

Is this the first on-camera discussion of "camping trips"?

How much did this production cost? Your ALPA dues hard at work.

I have great sympathy for Mesa pilots concerning their work conditions and this video. Just keep those apps going at other airlines, you will escape eventually.

 

[b19]

I think this video might just be a brilliant attempt at sarcasm and satire in an attempt to embarrass ALPA national into some form of action when there contract comes up in less than a year.

Think about it how else does an MEC put out a video for nationwide distribution to say what a complete piece of sh-t there airline is, and they need bigtime help from ALPA, to either fix their working conditions or shut it down.

No I don't work there but as long as ALPA does nothing regional feed will go to the lowest bidder, further eroding future mainline jobs. We should support Mesa in their upcoming strike.

 

[WSurf]

I think this video might just be a brilliant attempt at sarcasm and satire in an attempt to embarrass ALPA national into some form of action when there contract comes up in less than a year.

Think about it how else does an MEC put out a video for nationwide distribution to say what a complete piece of sh-t there airline is, and they need bigtime help from ALPA, to either fix their working conditions or shut it down.

No I don't work there but as long as ALPA does nothing regional feed will go to the lowest bidder, further eroding future mainline jobs. We should support Mesa in their upcoming strike.

After watching in again, I totally agree!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

All..........

I watched this video and commented on it a few days ago by ressurecting an old thread. maybe you missed it...

MAG is cleaning up AH's mess. They have allot of work to do. Give them credit for taking ownership of thier situation.

an attempt to embarrass ALPA national into some form of action when there contract comes up in less than a year.


No I don't work there but as long as ALPA does nothing regional feed will go to the lowest bidder, further eroding future mainline jobs. We should support Mesa in their upcoming strike.

ALPA National isn't going to be embarrassed into action for a better Mesa contract. A better Mesa contract is going to come from the Mesa pilots and ALL ALPA PILOTS SUPPORTING MESA!!!! I do like your last paragraph though...

We can either continue to chide and dis Mesa.... If we do then they'll get another crappy contract we have to deal with.. Or we can support them and help them get a good one that we can leverage for our own negotiations.

What can you control? You can't control a vote on a MAG contract if you are not a MAG pilot... but you can control your unification and support.

Chemo? Again.. those that don't understand... Situations like that don't just happen at MAG. It's real, and until your wife or child is in that situation, simply smile, support your fellow pilot and ask how you can help. Period!

Again, MAG MEC is cleaning up AH's dump. Let's help them out..

 

[jws717]

At first it appeared like the MEC was endorsing things like camping on the jet. On second thought, now it looks like the guy in the Vietnamise prison camp blinking out TORTURE in morse code, when taken to his televised mock trial. You guys remember that dude right?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

At first it appeared like the MEC was endorsing things like camping on the jet. On second thought, now it looks like the guy in the Vietnamise prison camp blinking out TORTURE in morse code, when taken to his televised mock trial. You guys remember that dude right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Denton

"The Navy Cross is presented to Jeremiah A. Denton, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy, for extraordinary heroism while serving as a Prisoner of War in North Vietnam from February 1966 to May 1966. Under constant pressure from North Vietnamese interrogators and guards, Rear Admiral Denton (then Commander) experienced harassment, intimidation and ruthless treatment in their attempt to gain military information and cooperative participation for propaganda purposes. During this prolonged period of physical and mental agony, he heroically resisted cruelties and continued to promulgate resistance policy and detailed instructions. Forced to attend a press conference with a Japanese correspondent, he blinked out a distress message in Morse Code at the television camera and was understood by United States Naval Intelligence. When this courageous act was reported to the North Vietnamese, he was again subjected to severe brutalities. Displaying extraordinary skill, fearless dedication to duty, and resourcefulness, he reflected great credit upon himself, and upheld the highest traditions of the Naval Service and the United States Armed Forces."

 

[Count Dracula]

I like the "living in a van down by the river" comment. There are choices in life. If you choose the 4 letter word, Mesa.......happy camping. Hope the fish are biting. Pathetic......

This so-called "Profession" for pilots has turned to this? Sarcasm and a video on how you should act as a professional? Let's see, when I'm fatigued because I just flew 6 legs on a 15 hour day down to mins, I need to be told by my MEC that I still need to act like a professional at the counter in front of the flying public? You need to make a video of this? What to wear and how to carry yourself in the terminal? Sounds like a lack af adequate parental guidance growing up to me.

Making a point to management with this sarcastic video? Try organizing and all walking off the job one day to make a statement about the working conditions or pay. How about living your life with a set of values that you will not relinquish at all costs?

This is America folks.......The Land of Opportunity. Take advantage of it.

 

[Spinn555]

Here's a serious thought.

Why doesn't ALPA (or any other union) become a little more proactive in the hiring process? That way they can weed out some of the frost-tipped spikey haired, unprofessional little punks before they get in and infect the rest of the herd.

Weed out the back-pack kids first, then you don't have to make a video telling them to stop it.

For many of the Mesa dinks, following this video means a complete lifestyle and attitude change. 180 degrees in the other direction.

Just look at the nit-wit sitting on the couch in their crewroom. His appearance may be a little done up for the video, but just listen to him talk. That is not an act! That is MESA.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

After watching in again, I totally agree!

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! You watched it twice?????? Holy Crap.

 

[asianpersuasion]

?????

 

[WSurf]

AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! You watched it twice?????? Holy Crap.

LOL... Hey, but the second time was in a crewroom with about 8 people in front of my laptop laughing there a$$ off!!!
Believe me, it wasn't for my own entertainment!!! :-D

 

[Stifler's Mom]

:beer:

 

[Dash8301]

Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase MAG FAGS

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I like the "living in a van down by the river" comment. There are choices in life. If you choose the 4 letter word, Mesa.......happy camping. Hope the fish are biting. Pathetic......

Nice that you understand how it should be. However, we must also deal with reality.. this is how it is!

This so-called "Profession" for pilots has turned to this? Sarcasm and a video on how you should act as a professional?

Yes, it is a thin line for Pro Standards to counsel pilots on professionalism. Humor is way to ensure that the PSC isn't being self righteous... Or holier than thou....

Let's see, when I'm fatigued because I just flew 6 legs on a 15 hour day down to mins, I need to be told by my MEC that I still need to act like a professional at the counter in front of the flying public?

Yes. Pilots are people and they often allow themselves to become reactionary to their environment. If people don't define themselves then they are open to be defined by external forces such as weather, environment, pay, work conditions, public perception, etc...

When one defines thier code on thier own instead of thier status such as job title, etc... they don't get piised off when they are fatigued, jumpseat denied etc... You know this as indicated by your comments below...

You need to make a video of this? What to wear and how to carry yourself in the terminal? Sounds like a lack af adequate parental guidance growing up to me.

But yet, it is the reality we live in.... we can deal with it or deny it, but it will still be there...

Making a point to management with this sarcastic video? Try organizing and all walking off the job one day to make a statement about the working conditions or pay. How about living your life with a set of values that you will not relinquish at all costs?

A little easier said than done... but your last sentence is way ahead of all that I said above... nice work....

This is America folks.......The Land of Opportunity. Take advantage of it.

yes!

Here's a serious thought.

Why doesn't ALPA (or any other union) become a little more proactive in the hiring process? That way they can weed out some of the frost-tipped spikey haired, unprofessional little punks before they get in and infect the rest of the herd.

Weed out the back-pack kids first, then you don't have to make a video telling them to stop it.

For many of the Mesa dinks, following this video means a complete lifestyle and attitude change. 180 degrees in the other direction.

Just look at the nit-wit sitting on the couch in their crewroom. His appearance may be a little done up for the video, but just listen to him talk. That is not an act! That is MESA.

It has been said a million times and will be said a million more....

Air Line Pilots Do Not Run Airlines!!

 

[CRJ_Driver]

Mesa Still Sucks

I also talked to the LGA CA and told him what was going on, and he said he wasn't weight limited at all, and got me on his flight to LGA. Since the HPN CA gave me his cell # I called and thanked him, and said I was getting on another flight.

CRJ_Driver, you are a Dick!

Get over your 2000 hr FO self.

Of course the Mesa captain wouldn't know if his flight was weight limited or not . . . just kick the tires and light the fires right??!!

 

[Jack Mehoff]

Of course the Mesa captain wouldn't know if his flight was weight limited or not . . . just kick the tires and light the fires right??!!

whats after mesa capts Comair capts dont care about corrct runways for takeoff.... WTF are you talking about CRJ_Driver?? Shut your mouth before someone shuts it for you!

 

[Eric]

I don't know if this has already been said as I didn't read the entire thread, but my favorite quote in the video was:

"Whether you have been a pilot at Mesa for 15 minutes or 15 years, you have probably found yourself in an uncomfortable situation..."

An uncomfortable situation in 15 minutes? Wow.

 

[pgcfii2002]

More company Kool Aid.........

 

[ttuite]

I thought it was very well done and the message was delivered very well.

If you don't understand the message or the context it was given in then... Oh well. Just what has the Pro-Standards committee done at ASA, Alleg/Pied, Comair, TSA, PSA, or any other ALPA carriers? Nothing? Well from the unprofessional posts from a few on this board maybe they should. Mesa is just ahead of the norm on this one. It is a shame that all of the problems that some ( and I only mean some ) people on this board have are all the result of MESA. Your low pay, your lousy work rules, your acrimonious disposition, your wife sleeping with the neighbor, your 14 year old daughter being pregnant etc, etc, are all Mesa's fault. Didn't your MEC's negotiate your contracts, and didn't you ratify them? Did someone have a gun to your head? Some folks on this board love to tell Mesa pilots and others to quit their jobs for the good of the industry. Why haven't you quit yours if things are so unacceptable to you.

 

[CRJ_Driver]

a friendly message
you don't even know me.....I work at Mesa......and you hate me. please tell this to me when asking for the jumpseat ok? what great company do you work for? also, let me know when we can have lunch and talk. thanks again and be safe.



Check out this PM I received from the gentleman above (whom I'll keep nameless). Too funny. The MAG video was made for this guy!

 

[wmuflyguy]

It almost sounded like they were condoning the company practices

 

[rickair7777]

It almsot sounded like they were condoning the company practices

Having experienced mesa, I did feel that the tone of the video was too supportive of some of mesa's questionable practices. The MEC should be fighting to get that crap changed, not telling MAG pilots that it's a "fact of life". I would have been PO'ed if my dues had been spent to send that message.