Medical fails may climb

[waveflyer]

That chart is crazy

Guant is healthy??

 

[Bringupthebird]

Just a personal observation here, but it seems that people (fat pilots) are pretty concerned about this issue. I'm a 23 on the BMI and lately I keep getting questioned by the "big guys" about how I stay slim. The conversations tend to be short because apparently "exercise" isn't the answer they want to here.

I hope you like wearing your CPAP when they get down to a BMI of 23 for testing. The only guy I know who had a sleep apnea diagnosis weighed 170lbs and was 5'10". He has 19 more years ahead of him to make sure the CPAP recording device doesn't fail each and every night. For the rest of his professional career.

Yeah, who cares when it's someone else's problem, eh?

 

[waveflyer]

That is the policy btw-

40 bmi and neck 17" he claims OSA is nearly universal

But: 30% of those with bmi UNDER 30 have OSA.


So here's my next issue: if OSA is this rampant and we have the safety record that we do- why is it a problem ?

 

[waveflyer]

I'm glad to see you doing actual work on this BringUp and not just posting on FI, right?

Anybody supporting age 65 needs to be on this big time - because EVERYBODY ELSE SAW IT COMING. This IS ON YOU.

 

[Bringupthebird]

I'm glad to see you doing actual work on this BringUp and not just posting on FI, right?

Anybody supporting age 65 needs to be on this big time - because EVERYBODY ELSE SAW IT COMING. This IS ON YOU.

BS Flag Wave. You know it. And yes I am working to promote the House bill.

Why can't you discern between defending the pilot profession from a self-serving individual and prolonging an out-of-date retirement age that undermined all pilot's credibility.

I worked on Age 65 while I was an F/O because it was right even though it had a short term negative impact on me.

What are YOU doing to help the profession?

 

[waveflyer]

No, HOW MANY OF US BRING, told you that upping the retirement age WOULD BRING INCREASED MEDICAL SCRUTINY??

Thousands did.

The idea you think this is a coincidence is the BS

 

[Bringupthebird]

So the answer to my question to you wave is "nuthin'"

 

[Bringupthebird]

There is no retirement age to GA flying, so your argument is BS. Face it, you wanted to keep 60 in place to protect your upgrade timeline, I get that. You didn't care that all the safety arguments against changing it undermined the pilot's credibility. The GO! crew that nodded off and are cited as reason for OSA testing were not over 60.

So, try some other attack on me, cause this one makes you look stupid.

 

[waveflyer]

Did you write your congressman and senator? Every representative you have?
Do you contribute more than the min to your union PAC? Tell them what you think? Write your union?
I've served moron- so no- not nothing- get over yourself.

You're clearly annoyed that what ALL OF US ANTI-AGE 65 guys predicted has come completely true- so the onus is on YOU- you better be doing the leg work on this-

As for my intentions, I'm ambivalent about age 65- I've stated my opinion many many times- being a captain past age 60 is a mistake- we had too much data about the health risks of age 60 captains- we could have gotten rid of age based retirements for FOs and we wouldn't have seen this- what we are seeing now - medical standards over-reach bc age 65 is a change and the data doesn't look good. You clearly don't understand the politics behind our career. The federal air surgeon was appointed at the cabinet level - do Americans care about private pilot medical standards? No- but they care about their captains- they don't care about FOs- they don't even think we're real pilots yet- now the surgeon has to do something or look like he's asleep at the wheel-

It should have been fly til you want- in the right seat- I'd like to do that- I love flying- and my idea on this is far from popular with anyone- so shut it-

Now bc each age 60+ medical incident highlights systemic pilot health issues- the surgeon now has the political will to increase standards. Before- we gone the better part of a half century with nothing but decreased scrutiny bc our record was so good-

What's undeniable is that what we predicted is coming true.
So you AND YOUR ILK BETTER DO YOUR POLITICAL WORK ON THIS- bc like all this debt, my generation will be paying the price for your short sighted decisions again

 

[Bringupthebird]

Thanks for clarifying your decision to stay with that non-argument. Sorry the F/O thing chaps your ass so bad.

Again, you still don't grasp that there is no connection between OSA and Age 65, as much as you may want to dream up one, it just doesn't exist.

7600+ posts tells me you're not the go-to guy you think you are.