MD-11 hard landing @ MEX

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Accident: Lufthansa Cargo MD11 at Mexico City on Sep 13th 2009, hard landing
By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Oct 10th 2009 16:27Z, last updated Saturday, Oct 10th 2009 16:27Z

A Lufthansa Cargo McDonnell Douglas MD-11 freighter, registration D-ALCO performing freight flight GEC-8240 from Dallas Ft. Worth,TX (USA) to Mexico City (Mexico), touched down very hard at Mexico City's runway around 23:10L (Sep 14th 04:10Z). The airplane rolled out safely and taxied to the apron. No injuries occured.

A postflight inspection revealed wrinkles to the fuselage skin and a bent nose gear structure. The airplane is still in Mexico City awaiting decision whether to repair the airplane or write it off.

Metars:
MMMX 140648Z 00000KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK 60175 8/47/ HZY
MMMX 140548Z 18003KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK SLP098 52016 928 60165 8/47/ HZY
MMMX 140449Z 19005KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3032 RMK 60225 8/46/ HZY
MMMX 140415Z 26004KT 4SM -RA FEW015 BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3030 RMK 8/96/ HZY RAE11 B-RA
MMMX 140345Z 27003KT 3SM RA BKN020 OVC080 15/14 A3030 RMK 60155 8/96/ HZY -TSRAE41 BRA
 

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The mighty Mad Dogg bites another crews A**. When she bites it will surely leave a scar!
 

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Probably a 250 hour cadet out of Lufthansa university.
 

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Do they really do that?
Yes and No. Usually, the 250 hour super wonder pilots go over to the pax side. I believe 1000 hours transport category within LH is required before you can switch to the cargo side.
 

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Was it that bad flying that thing?
Boeings are much easier to fly and much more straightforward. Douglas engineers have nothing but disdain for pilots. The -11 is overcomplicated and difficult to hand-fly in a crosswind.
How's the "new" job treating you so far?
Best move I ever made in aviation.
 

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Boeings are much easier to fly and much more straightforward. Douglas engineers have nothing but disdain for pilots. The -11 is overcomplicated and difficult to hand-fly in a crosswind.

Best move I ever made in aviation.
We always say that till we get furlough!
 

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Boeings are much easier to fly and much more straightforward. Douglas engineers have nothing but disdain for pilots. The -11 is overcomplicated and difficult to hand-fly in a crosswind.
I see, thanks. The sad part is I'd still take flying that thing at your previous employer vs. just about everything at my current one.

Best move I ever made in aviation.
Glad it's working out for you, hope they hire sometime it the next decade.
 

hyper

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So GSXR600, is that a "personal" avatar or off the net somewhere? Inquiring minds wanna know.
 

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"Douglas engineers have nothing but disdain for pilots."

I always enjoyed flying the DC-9. Did you not ever have the pleasure?
 

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"Douglas engineers have nothing but disdain for pilots."

I always enjoyed flying the DC-9. Did you not ever have the pleasure?
My only exposure has been the -11. Airbus builds the most comfortable and ergonomic flight decks. Boeings are the most reliable (although I hear the DC9 had the best dispatch rate at Delta) and the most fun to fly.

And Douglas builds tanks -- I'll give them that.
 

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Boeings are much easier to fly and much more straightforward. Douglas engineers have nothing but disdain for pilots. The -11 is overcomplicated and difficult to hand-fly in a crosswind.

Best move I ever made in aviation.
I'll take the MD-11 over the A320/A319/A318 series in a crosswind on any day.
I really miss flying the "11"...to me it flew like a big CRJ. I love the 'Bus...but during a crosswind it will burn you more than the "11" will.
 

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GP- I wouldn't judge all Douglass designs based on your experience with the MD-11.
 

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All the quirks, idiosyncrasies and handling issues of the MD-11 render it a distant cousin, rather than sibling, to the DC-10. A joy to hand fly.
 

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The bigger problem is that so many companies want to fly the -11 like it's a -10 instead of flying the way MD intended, using the automation and enjoying the ride!
 
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