FlyBunny said:
Don't be JEALOUS because someone has the means to write a check for $35K. If you were in their position with no job...but $35K could get you one, you'd do it in a heat beat. I know I would have!
You "WOULD" have? Bunny... ummm... you DID. Why are you arguing 3rd person as if you weren't one of those people who forked out a bunch of money at a pilot mill to get a chance at a PCL interview?
I gotta call some people... I've GOT to find out who you are... too funny.
There's NOTHING wrong with it. Nothing at all.
Keep telling yourself that...
Didn't you spend much more on your flight training than your first year pay?
No. I graduated MTSU with all my ratings and an $18,000 student loan, no help from "daddy dearest". My first job made me about $22k, the next year $36k, the next year $52,5k, then a drop to $48k, then a jump to $84k at 29 years old.
Conversely, you people buy all your ratings for about $20k, then slap down ANOTHER $35k to $50k, JUST to go to work for $18,500 a year. It's not jealousy, it's me over here laughing my ass off at the STUPIDITY!!! PATHETIC.
and with all due respect to all my pilots friends who always talk about not making much...have you ever realized that what you make per hour basis? It's not bad at all...for a less than 100 hour/week work...
OK, first: you need writing classes.
Second, a "100 hour/week work"? 100 hours of work in a week... let's think about that, that's a 5 day trip working 20 hours a day? Huh? Smoke crack lately?
Most of us put in about 50 hours a week "at work" (that's ON DUTY), as in a 4 day trip with 12 hours of duty per day, 6-7 hours of flying. If you're an F/O making $18.00 per hour of BLOCK pay, that means you're making about $9.00 an hour for every hour at work. My wife makes $13 with a high school diploma, no college, and didn't spend $85,000 to get that job.
no each one of you put yourselves in a scenario where you're working other forty hours per month making $10-$12 per hour and you have just increased your annual pay by about $5000.
Huh? Again, writing classes, please... Guess you should have spent that money on a degree after all.
Are you trying to say someone should get a side job on their 2 or 3 days off a week just to make another $5,000 per year so you can get by on the sh*t pay you're making?
Yeah, that's a GREAT solution. Let's not fix the problem with low entry wages and pay-for-training PUKES, let's just get another job and subsidize management's bonuses while they laugh their a*ses off at us. Brilliant, truly brilliant (hint, that's sarcasm).
DrewbCHQ said:
And no i wont do it for less then im making now, REASON i left Colgan, More money, better company, better equip.. Is chautauqua my final resting place sh*t if it is I F%^ked up royally. But in 2 or 3 years ill move on to hopefully a legacy carrier and make descent money by the time i HAVE a family and BUY a house.
Umm,,, you might not want to plan on that 2 or 3 years to get to a legacy carrier.
There are a FEW who will make it that fast, just to have the rug pulled out from under them during furloughs (my sim partner these last two months, hired at NWA at 28 just to get furloughed the last 5 years), and a VERY FEW might actually make it through without a hiccup, but they're in the minority.
To do that, you'll have to have VERY GOOD "Ins" at those legacy carriers; too many pilots out there to just "luck" into a legacy job with 5,000 or so hours with 3,000 hours PIC. Most pilots getting hired these days are between 7,000 to 10,000 hours and that's WITH internal recommendations.
Just saying watch out for your "dream". Like you, my dad was 25 years USAirways with the 20k per month paycheck and I thought I had it made to get on at USAirways by 25... then it was 30... then 9/11 happened.
The point is that life deals you ups and downs. Taking sh*t jobs just for that brass ring at the end of the rainbow only drags ALL of us down when the industry becomes what it is now... I wish you luck, but I highly doubt MOST people will see a major airline job before they're 30-35,,, not in this market.
