StaySeated
IBT does not represent ME
- Joined
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There is a deal to be had here between FAPA and SWAPA. There is so much more to this story than "swapa wanted a staple and FAPA wanted seat protection".
Lets be honest. If my fellow F9 pilots utilize the following goals and apply them to both qualified bidders, the answer is obvious.
FAPA’s concerns are:
* Job Protection
* Seat Protection
* Pay Protection
* Domicile Protection
1. Job Protection - we know that at least 20% of us will be furloughed at SWA. We do not know what the plan will be at RAH
2. Seat Protection - we know that seat protection is currently not on the table at SWA. We do not know what the plan will be at RAH considering the fact that we will have to complete an SLI with the IBT.
3. Pay protection - this one is obvious, nothing to see hear, moving on to...
4. Domicile protection - this one is not so obvious. There may be some form of fence for Denver with SWA. What hasn't been discussed is the deployment of airbuses to a different city if RAH wins. If Rah wants to spread out to a different domicile and they are the only other bidder than domicile protection shouldn't even be included in the top four, IMHO.
Basically, we are faced with two completely different scenarios.
SWA includes furloughs, a pay raise, and a career with a "known entity".
RAH may or may not include furloughs, no pay raises, and a career with nothing but "unknowns".
SWA is the better option. There isn't even a comparison, and I am floored at some of the things I am hearing and reading from my colleagues.
While we are being honest, it is time for the SWA guys to admit a few items.
This acquisition will help you, all of you, and you know it.
A pure staple is a "seat-grab" of the highest order.
An F9 Captain moves to the right seat, is on RSV instead of holding a line, may lose his domicile, could potentially be furloughed while at the bottom of the list, but keeps his pay? This is a windfall? Come on guys, you lose nothing by agreeing to a ratio integration. By putting the entire F9 list at the bottom you immediately upgrade over 200 FO's to Captain and receive a furlough buffer at the junior end of the list. Who is getting a windfall here?
There is a deal to be had here, and a fair one at that.
Hopefully the court will allow an extension and we will all agree on a fair plan. If this blows up, both groups will lose. We have the ability to make an improvement on what currently is the most successful airline in history. I am confident that both sides will see the potential here.
Lets be honest. If my fellow F9 pilots utilize the following goals and apply them to both qualified bidders, the answer is obvious.
FAPA’s concerns are:
* Job Protection
* Seat Protection
* Pay Protection
* Domicile Protection
1. Job Protection - we know that at least 20% of us will be furloughed at SWA. We do not know what the plan will be at RAH
2. Seat Protection - we know that seat protection is currently not on the table at SWA. We do not know what the plan will be at RAH considering the fact that we will have to complete an SLI with the IBT.
3. Pay protection - this one is obvious, nothing to see hear, moving on to...
4. Domicile protection - this one is not so obvious. There may be some form of fence for Denver with SWA. What hasn't been discussed is the deployment of airbuses to a different city if RAH wins. If Rah wants to spread out to a different domicile and they are the only other bidder than domicile protection shouldn't even be included in the top four, IMHO.
Basically, we are faced with two completely different scenarios.
SWA includes furloughs, a pay raise, and a career with a "known entity".
RAH may or may not include furloughs, no pay raises, and a career with nothing but "unknowns".
SWA is the better option. There isn't even a comparison, and I am floored at some of the things I am hearing and reading from my colleagues.
While we are being honest, it is time for the SWA guys to admit a few items.
This acquisition will help you, all of you, and you know it.
A pure staple is a "seat-grab" of the highest order.
An F9 Captain moves to the right seat, is on RSV instead of holding a line, may lose his domicile, could potentially be furloughed while at the bottom of the list, but keeps his pay? This is a windfall? Come on guys, you lose nothing by agreeing to a ratio integration. By putting the entire F9 list at the bottom you immediately upgrade over 200 FO's to Captain and receive a furlough buffer at the junior end of the list. Who is getting a windfall here?
There is a deal to be had here, and a fair one at that.
Hopefully the court will allow an extension and we will all agree on a fair plan. If this blows up, both groups will lose. We have the ability to make an improvement on what currently is the most successful airline in history. I am confident that both sides will see the potential here.