- Dec 20, 2005
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Ok, everyone chime in with what our new compensation package will look like. Is it up? Is it down? Will it "align with industry standards"?
You are getting paid to fly....just be happy about that. There are plenty of people out there who don't even have that luxury.
I would implore everyone who comments to keep percpective and not brag, gloat, moan and groan about what you are getting paid, when there are so many people on the streets right now.
Not saying you should let companies rip you off, but just try and keep a perspective.
I hate to tell you this Dooker, but even if we had a union on property, we would still not be in control. The only control you have is what you do with your life.
If it was up to people like you, we'd still be a British colony.
"Come on, guys! Why do you wanna rebel against England? Come on! So we pay taxes but can't vote. So what? You know how many people would love to be royal subjects? A bunch!"
It's not just about getting "paid to fly." It's about feeling like you have a modicum of control over what gets done to you and how it gets done. That counts for a lot.
Look...get off your soapbox for a second a read what I wrote. Did I tell you to roll over and let the company give it to you....no. All I asked was have percepctive and not shout that you want $100,000/ year or they can kiss you ass. Be considerate to those who don't have jobs. That is all I am saying. Go for the 100K, go for the union if your group wants it.....just don't spew forth all over message boards about it. There is a time and a place to discuss these matters. Your pilot group is where it belongs, not on message boards. Be professional about it.
Unions have been very useful and constructive over the years, but if you think you NEED one to have control over your career....that is just sad. Take control of your life. Unions help in some ways, but just like you can't depend on management, you can't depend on the unions either. Take responsibility for yourself and your career.
As far as the British colony comment.....find an analogy that relates and try again.
Sorry, bro, but you're talking out of both sides of your mouth on this one. You're either for or against something. The time for fence-straddling is past.
Furthermore, I don't know a single guy at Flex who thinks we have a snowball's chance of achieving Netjets-style compensation. All we really want is to hold onto those few dearly won gains we've made, as well as our dignity.
And, lastly, I don't need a lecture from you--whoever you are--about finding my own little happy place. This issue relates directly to my ability to support my family, as I'm sure it does for many of us.
Oh--and my analogy was spot-on.
Are they taking crew meals away too?
I've been hearing a lot on the road as well!