Legacy Bashfest - Bring it on!

[LegacyIIDriver]

To you I say, thanks, G100. Perhaps one day I will have the privilege... *salute*


*POOF*

 

[banned username 2]

You forgot Skull-Two, a$$hole.

Ban this: *middle finger*

Now wait a minute, you said I was the one losing because I made what you thought was some irrational comment, now you go and do this???

It wouldn't be funny if he and I met face to face. I'd be in jail and he'd be in the hospital.

Now this, well this is a threat... So we'll leave this up as proof/evidence... Reverting to hostilities now, tisk, tisk, tisk... and to think, YOU started this thread... What were you thinking???

*POOF*

What is this? The sound a WSCofD's engine makes as it blows itself out in the thin air at FL410??? Or the sound it makes when you run it out of fuel "beating the book numbers" and trying to fly it 3,400+ NM???

 

[CatYaaak]

To you I say, thanks, G100. Perhaps one day I will have the privilege... *salute*


*POOF*

"POOF"??? What's that? what's that poof? did anyone else hear a poof? I distinctly heard a poof!....did I just hear the signature poofing-sound "poof" of a Brazilian circuit breaker tripping? No, it can't be, those things never trip, they aren't even necessary...nothing breaks. So what else could it be.. Uh oh, omg omg.....does this mean...WSCoDriver, are you there?...Say it ain't so....he's....(sniff)......he's......(sniff)..(sniff)....


..NOooOOOOooooooOOOOOoooOoo....

......ooOOoooOOOoooOOooOHcrap!



I guess it was the sound of the breakers tripping his head, and gee I miss him already, but now what am I supposed to do for fun? (sigh) Oh well, there's always Teamster-hassling over on the Frac Board.

 

[Dizel8]

So much talk about a frigging airplane!

How this has not turned into a BBQ thread by now, blows my mind!

 

[Stearmandriver]

It wouldn't be funny if he and I met face to face. I'd be in jail and he'd be in the hospital.

Enjoy your fun without me. I'm gone! The stupidity level has surpassed my tolerance...

It was...well...interesting.

Adios!

Such maniacal devotion to something as stupid as an airplane? I mean, it's not like he insulted your family or something, dude... it's a hunk of freakin' metal! (Scrap aluminum must be cheaper than composites in Brazil ) To actually feel like violence would be necessary over something that inconsequential makes me think you aren't psychiatrically qualified to be in command of a golf cart, much less an aircraft.

And what an aircraft it is, too, right? I've been flying this POS for years... I mean, even if you flew a GV or BBJ or something I couldn't see caring about it enough to put this much effort into defending it... but an RJ???

Geez, why dontcha get a job with a regional? The pay might suck, but you'll be among your own kind (we even let you all have your own side of the crew room, where you can congregate and talk about flying a jet, while we hide over on the other side and discuss important things like women, barbecue, new job prospects etc...

Sorry, but 40 pages of this? You're out of control, man. It's a pipe. A sucky one at that. Let it go...

 

[banned username 2]

And what an aircraft it is, too, right? I've been flying this POS for years... It's a pipe. A sucky one at that. Let it go...

Ah yes, another "Testimonial" of the fine attributes of the WSCofD by someone who would really know, an EMB-145 Captain!... This is now what? 4 EMB Pilots who all agree it is a POS???

WSCofD!!!

 

[fokkerjet]

....the scenario would be slightly different. Firstly, the GV would be asked to stop his climb at FL450 on his way to FL510, because the Falcon would be at FL470. Now, if it was a climbing G-lV (instead of G-V), no conflict is possible because he's leveling off 2,000' below me, so no worries (granted, watching it shoot by below would probably give me Hotel/Challenger near-miss flashbacks).

Kind of overstating the performance of both the Falcon and Gulfstream, aren't you? Neither one can climb anywhere near their max altitudes until their weights are down pretty low. In the F2000, lucky to get above FL410 until down to mid-weight, and only if it's ISA minus........

The Fokker; yea, she's slow but we rarely fly her above the mid 20's since she's pretty much on schedules all day, and there she fits right in. When she ventures south of the border, she's in the mid 30's, but still out of the way since the newer airliners are way above her. Besides, she wasn't designed for longhaul......mostly regional stuff, like the WSofD.

 

[CatYaaak]

Kind of overstating the performance of both the Falcon and Gulfstream, aren't you? QUOTE]

"Overstate"???

My good man, have you forgotten where you are? This is the WSCOD thread, where concepts like "overstatement" or "fact" are just so......passe'. 40 pages of posts has established that it's strictly "Book or better" around here! Those Falcon numbers are from the book, and not only that, the "real world" numbers I get are much, much better.


You see, Dassault numbers have always been conservative, and with the new wiper mod and lighweight galley-counter the performan..........

 

[Flechas]

All of you guys would have loved to fly the legacy when you first were looking for a job. Also, if the company that you work for may go tits up in the future, who knows what you'll end up flying, you may even have to change your opinion about the legacy......

 

[banned username 2]

All of you guys would have loved to fly the legacy when you first were looking for a job. Also, if the company that you work for may go tits up in the future, who knows what you'll end up flying, you may even have to change your opinion about the legacy......

The ONLY reason the Legacy is getting bashed so bad (Remember, this is the "Legacy Bashfest" here, just like Legacy Driver named it, we are just doing our part to keep the thread on topic!) is because LegacyDriver (i.e. WSCofDdriver) came on here trying to boast that the Legacy is the "End all, Be all" of Corporate aircraft and that it is better than any other machine out there in this field... He came looking for an argument, and by golly, he found one!

 

[Flechas]

Well int hat case go ahead and BASH AWAY!!!
Now to stay on topic, all of yo are right about the Falcons and Gulfstreams being way better. But if we talk about $$ here, I think the Brasilians are doing a great job!

 

[fokkerjet]

Kind of overstating the performance of both the Falcon and Gulfstream, aren't you? QUOTE]

"Overstate"???

My good man, have you forgotten where you are? This is the WSCOD thread, where concepts like "overstatement" or "fact" are just so......passe'. 40 pages of posts has established that it's strictly "Book or better" around here! Those Falcon numbers are from the book, and not only that, the "real world" numbers I get are much, much better.


You see, Dassault numbers have always been conservative, and with the new wiper mod and lighweight galley-counter the performan..........

I'm sorry Comrade, I stand corrected and will send myself off to the gulag will I force myself to lose my western ideas and adopt those of the "Homeland".......

I need a new handle.......has "Yak'erjet" been reserved yet?

 

[CatYaaak]

All of you guys would have loved to fly the legacy when you first were looking for a job. Also, if the company that you work for may go tits up in the future, who knows what you'll end up flying, you may even have to change your opinion about the legacy......

It's not really about the airplane. I first began corporate flying in a Westwind of all things...kind of the Legacy of it's day. And yes indeed, I was happy as he!!, and it had it's good points, but I certainly didn't run around insisting to everyone it was some kind of Star-machine.

Will the Brazilians sell as many WSCoDs to the corporate world as there are Westwinds running around? Time will tell, but you have something more substantial than "It was an airliner" to sell it with. Forget the rarified world of BBJ's and G-Vs, even in the fertile ground of turboprops I can remember 15 years ago Bae pushing hard to market the corporate-version Jetstream as a King Air replacement. Unlike the WSCoD, it even had BETTER perfomance numbers than it's target market competition in many areas...and carried more people....So where are those Limeycraft now?

Of course, no aircraft, including the aptly-named WSCoD, will EVER usurp the Bagel Bomber as King of Aircraft Nicknames. It outperforms ALL the competition here. The Yom Kippur Clipper (etc., etc, etc.) reigns supreme and shall never be supplanted!

Everyone likes to support their own aircraft to some degree, but among peers, there's a world of difference between highlighting your aicraft's forte's and sounding like a clueless salesman. Hint: when you start arguing "Airplanes" with experienced, fact-producing factory test pilots to the point you're even telling them the capabilities of their own aircraft, you've solidly entered that latter realm.

LegacyDriver would have done much better to have immediately changed his name to "WSCoDriver", and worn it like a badge of honor. It's not often many of us get to see something like this...witnessing the birth of a great acronym-name. WSCoD!

Most of us get it. That LegacyDriver and Silver Wings don't understand that it's a play on the well-known nickname "Whistling Death" given to that great aircraft, the F4U Corsair, by the Japanese, is not our fault...pushing the two of them into the silly excersize of citing other aircraft's "Death Rates" vs. the WSCoDs. I mean, how weird is that?

Personally, I'd like to buy a few beers and congratulate the anonymous regional puke who thought it up. I hope he decides to fly corporate someday. He obviously has a working knowledge of history, the right attitude, and a great sense of humor.

 

[banned username 2]

It's not really about the airplane. I first began corporate flying in a Westwind of all things...kind of the Legacy of it's day. And yes indeed, I was happy as he!!, and it had it's good points, but I certainly didn't run around insisting to everyone it was some kind of Star-machine.

Will the Brazilians sell as many WSCoDs to the corporate world as there are Westwinds running around? Time will tell, but you have something more substantial than "It was an airliner" to sell it with. Forget the rarified world of BBJ's and G-Vs, even in the fertile ground of turboprops I can remember 15 years ago Bae pushing hard to market the corporate-version Jetstream as a King Air replacement. Unlike the WSCoD, it even had BETTER perfomance numbers than it's target market competition in many areas...and carried more people....So where are those Limeycraft now?

Of course, no aircraft, including the aptly-named WSCoD, will EVER usurp the Bagel Bomber as King of Aircraft Nicknames. It outperforms ALL the competition here. The Yom Kippur Clipper (etc., etc, etc.) reigns supreme and shall never be supplanted!

Everyone likes to support their own aircraft to some degree, but among peers, there's a world of difference between highlighting your aicraft's forte's and sounding like a clueless salesman. Hint: when you start arguing "Airplanes" with experienced, fact-producing factory test pilots to the point you're even telling them the capabilities of their own aircraft, you've solidly entered that latter realm.

LegacyDriver would have done much better to have immediately changed his name to "WSCoDriver", and worn it like a badge of honor. It's not often many of us get to see something like this...witnessing the birth of a great acronym-name. WSCoD!

Most of us get it. That LegacyDriver and Silver Wings don't understand that it's a play on the well-known nickname "Whistling Death" given to that great aircraft, the F4U Corsair, by the Japanese, is not our fault...pushing the two of them into the silly excersize of citing other aircraft's "Death Rates" vs. the WSCoDs. I mean, how weird is that?

Personally, I'd like to buy a few beers and congratulate the anonymous regional puke who thought it up. I hope he decides to fly corporate someday. He obviously has a working knowledge of history, the right attitude, and a great sense of humor.

As usual, a well though-out, well-written, entertaining post!!! Kudos to the Yaaak!

 

[banned username 2]

Guys (and you too, WSCoDdriver),

This thing is coming up on 600 posts and nearly 20,000 reads, lets keep this very informative thread going and push it into the FlightInfo "Largest, Most Popular Thread, Hall of Fame"!!!

I believe it already holds the FI record for "Post Which Remained on Topic the Longest"... The WSCoD is so much fun to "Bash" (as our thread originator requested) that there has been no need to drift off topic!

Carry On!

 

[Flechas]

Not happening "Keep it going" already has that record (I think).

 

[banned username 2]

Not happening "Keep it going" already has that record (I think).

Oh, we aren't even CLOSE to being done here...

 

[Flechas]

My bad, "Islan Air" is first...

 

[Flechas]

Oh, we aren't even CLOSE to being done here...

I disagree. It's obvious the Falcon is better than the Legacy, Legacy driver doesn't know his ass from his head, and it's down to 3 posters.....

 

[O-Line]

Maybe if we coax WSCoDDriver back for a few more of his "facts".

Come on WSCODDriver, just hang around for 3 more weeks till that FL410 chip comes online. Remember FL410 is coming on May 1 now!