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Trip Report for Southwest Airlines Interview
18 May 2004THE INTERVIEW:
Flew to Dallas day before, checked in. Remember everyone is your friend. Flew from BWI, recommend checking in a little early, took the ticket agent about 15 minutes to coordinate my must ride pass. From the gouge I tried to look around to see how crowded the flights were. Glad I did, they asked. Carried on all my luggage/suit, paperwork and logbooks. Recommend flying in business casual, that’s coat and tie. Never hurts to look nice as your must ride pass will indicate you are heading to Dallas for a F/O Interview.
Called the Renaissance Shuttle after arriving at Dallas Love. Checked in and signed up for the 0700 shuttle. Previous gouge said the 0730 is fine, I disagree, given the amount of new-hire training going on, and the interviews, you can easily be late. Better to be there a little early. Don’t forget to tip the driver!
Met in the lobby with the other candidates, took the shuttle to PD. Once everyone arrived we moved to the conference room and started separating our paperwork. PD folks reiterated you are not competing with everyone there, you are competing with yourself. If they like you, they will hire you. Be yourself, they only have about 45 mins/interview to get to know you. That’s your shot.
Half went off to do their LOIs in the morning while the rest stayed for the interview. All the gouge applies, 2 SWA captains, 1 PD person.
First interview was with SWA Captain, first item, went over my logbooks and flight time. Having all my time broken out, easy to follow I believe was a great benefit. Then to the contact list. Everyone at SWA worked very hard to ensure we were as comfortable and relaxed as possible. Very sincere. Questions were:
Why SWA x2.
Why Hire you x2.
TMAAT you took the controls away from a qualified pilot (not as an Instructor)
Why are you leaving the military x2?
TMAAT you had to divert.
First Interview lasted 20 mins max. He told me not to be concerned with how long/short each interview was. All his interviews were fairly quick.
Second interview was PD. Longest of the three. Again very concerned that I was relaxed. Questions in addition to those above:
TMAAT you went over and above in your job.
TMAAT someone questioned your integrity.
TMAAT you had a conflict with a co-worker.
TMAAT you broke a rule.
TMAAT your scariest flight.
TMAAT you were reprimanded by your supervisor/CO.
The PD interview was the most ‘cut and dry’. Very much as I suspected an interview would be.
Third interview was with female SWA Captain. Remember shooting the breeze with her more than any particular questions. Very easy (too easy) to forget that you are interviewing with a SWA Captain. She was very nice and profession, again concerned that I was relaxed as much as possible. Was routinely reminding myself not to let my ‘interview guard’ down.
TMAAT you saw something in the cockpit that could have been
disastrous if you had not seen it.
TMAAT your performance was not as good as it could have been.
TMAAT you had a conflict with a superior. (Not in the cockpit)
TMAAT you flew with someone you did not get along with.
She asked me the fewest questions, we were running behind to capture the folks going to lunch.
Lunch was great. Be sure to bring a few extra bucks in case your $7.00 coupon does not cover everything. Excellent food and view. Everyone eats as a group. There was one dude who was eating with some buds that had started in the new hire class. It seemed awkward him sitting away from everyone else. Don’t recommend it.
LOI was after lunch. All the previous gouge applies. The scenario I had was flying from MSY to Tampa, over water with a line of thunderstorms between my aircraft and Tampa, and hot military warning areas to the north.
Return to MSY, go over 50 nm offshore, bingo to Birmingham etc. I had seen this scenario in the gouge, in fact had used it as practice to develop my thought processes for the LOI. I decided to play it straight up, and pretend I had not seen the scenario before, asked lots of questions, gave the F/O control, spoke with ATC, dispatch etc. Interestingly the 7 minute clock was inoperative, and when I looked down it indicated I was out of time. I think it had only been in the LOI about 3-4 minutes, little surprised to see the clock at 7. I wrapped up my thoughts, gave them my decision and they left. When they returned they asked me if I had felt rushed. They indicated the clock had malfunctioned. I took this opportunity to review with them why I decided to return to MSY (my ultimate decision), to ensure that they understood my thought process. That was it. Critically debrief yourself. SWA has never hired the perfect pilot, and they understand that it is a condensed timeframe.
LESSON’S LEARNED/RECOMMENDATIONS:
-- Believe prepping for the interview is essential, but look out for being overly prepared. I think this has bitten a few folks. Don’t write out long, detailed answers.
-- Most strongly recommend spending some $$ on a well tailored suit. You never get a second chance to make a first impression. I stuck with the Navy Blue suit, White shirt, red tie thing.
-- Many folks recommended I head down to the bar the night before your interview, perhaps meet some of the interview team. I chose not to do this. I did not want the ‘interview’ to start until I was ready, in my new suit, best appearance. Last thing I needed was to accidentally spill a beer in someone’s lap. This is an individual thing.
-- Take the 0700 bus to the interview.
-- If you are in the military, leave the rank at home. I ensured my stories did not contain SGT Jones or Petty Officer Smith. I referred to them by aircrew position.
-- I emphasized teamwork in my stories. They know I got the credit for a job well done, I wanted to highlight how people helped me, how much I appreciated their efforts, the differences it made, into my responses. Believe this to be a fundamental pillar at SWA.
-- I read the first 3 chapters of NUTS. The first two are worthwhile, the rest is a regurgitation of the same thing and my opinion a waste of time. I did have a good working knowledge of SWA’s financial history, published plans of aircraft accessions, and financial standing. All of this off the web, most from the SWA website. I knew 10 facts about the company and 10 facts about the airline industry. Makes the, why SWA, answer pretty easy.
-- Make a copy of your SWA package you receive prior to the interview to fill out in case you make a mistake.
-- Pay particular close attention to the contact list, ensure the phone numbers are accurate.
-- Make sure all your flight time on your application, logbooks etc., matches up. Lots of awkward stories here. Recommend breaking out your flight time if not done so already, including instructor time.
-- Recommend arriving day before interview. Many showed up the morning of. I also departed day after, as to not worry about missing a flight. Hand carry all your documents/suit on the aircraft.
-- Recommend obtaining LORs from people who know you well and can personally speak to your flying abilities. I did have some from dudes who worked at SWA but the majority were not. I had nine LORs, 5 of which were from non-SWA dudes, and some were called. Folks in my interview group seemed focused on only having SWA pilots writing them LORs. SWA pilots can provide online recommendations.
-- Last but most important, try as best you can to relax and to be yourself.
I was contacted on July 18th with the fortunate news that I had successfully completed the interview process. Have completed my drug screen and background check, awaiting my class date. Best of luck to everyone.