Last MidEx 717 flight

[CitationLover]

Yes, your regional jet.

I just checked your payrates on APC. They blow away the pay scale of RAH which I would agree. But your-Midwest payrates for a B717 still IS low. It's either you think you are an overpaid Former Midwest Pilot or you just have no clue. Your former payrates at MIDWEST does not cut it old man! . . You should have been and shoudl be flying that plane-B717/MD80 for 3x what's on APC. PATHETIC, you are right!

Guess, you can't provide the answer about the strike vote can you. Cause, there weren't any! You are just a hyprocite! You guys claim that RAH is a substandard crew and other name you called them. Yet, you are wanting to work for them. You must be then a substandard old man pilot. Hyprocite.

Just quit, and don't go fly for them at all. Don't think about working for RAH since you are a bitter hyprocitical old man. Make sure if you start to "pressume" what happen to your former airline based it on FACTS and not "this is what happen, this had happen, and this how they did it". No facts, no credibilty.

Just quit.

Plz show me someone flying the 717 for 3x what we did?

And the strike vote was in the works, as again we have to be released which we were not.

But will chalk you up as flamebait. Who do you fly a 747-400 for?

 

[Airline Driver]

You still refuse to answer the question. Under the republic umbrella the IBT had Midwest's payrates under their current CBA. Why would they let them expire and use their own 190 rates which are a lot less? It just shows how much they jump when the reverend asks them to.

:erm: It's tough to answerer a question when you never asked me a question in the first place! Go back and read your posts to me. Your Pay rate question that your referring to here should be self explanatory and you answered your own question. We did not let them expire, we are operating on a different contract with different pay rates. Sure We want higher pay rates, who doesn't, but you just can't snap your fingers and have new pay rates automatically implemented with out an LOA. Keep in mind we don't have specific 190 rates, our rates are based on seat configuration which needs to be changed. Lots of things need to be changed in our contract.

Why is the company using the lower rates than the Midex rates, Plain and simple, Cost!!!! Believe me we are working on a better contract, but things like that take time. I understand and can sympathies with your bitterness and hostility twards RAH, because I have been there too at one point in my career.

 

[ms_chq]

Plz show me someone flying the 717 for 3x what we did?

And the strike vote was in the works, as again we have to be released which we were not.

But will chalk you up as flamebait. Who do you fly a 747-400 for?

Well, why don't you show that you can lead by example. You keep professing the cheap labor cost while you are a CHEAP labor cost yourself. A pathetic pay rate you have. Show me . . .

Spoken like a true idiot pilot. You don't have to be released to ask for a strike vote. Your "perception", and "mentality" again that it was in the works . . . Doesn't cut it. . .What a of load crap. You are just full of excuses old man. Very pathetic. Flamebait. Not at all. Actually, you have been flaming for quite sometime from I have been reading. Baseless. . and NO facts to back up it.

 

[Axel]

Silly rabbit! Don't you know anything? It was not up to YX to strike illegally, it was up to RAH to strike illegally.

 

[Propsync]

Time to move on folks. What's done is done. All of the finger pointing is wrong and pilots blaming pilots is of no use. No one is immune, widgets. Anyone, anywhere, anytime.

 

[jayme]

Republic, just like any regional, set their pay rates in line with the other regionals. They had to, to remain competitive. Otherwise they would have priced themselves out of the market. Which would have meant goodbye to quick upgrades. Which is the whole reason for working for a regional.

You knuckleheads who think Republic should have had industry leading pay rates need to look around and realize that they COULDN'T have those rates and expect to keep those planes. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER REGIONAL THEY CONSIDER EACH CONTRACT WITH THIS IN MIND: IF WE GET TOO EXPENSIVE, WE WILL LOSE THE FLYING! It's not rocket science!

Now that the flying is branded, there is no excuse, of course. If the next contract is not close to industry standard, they will deserve some flak. Until then, back off, or show your true colors as a knuckle-dragging, "my sht hole regional is better than your sht hole regional" moron.

 

[cmrflyer]

the only reason you would become expensive is because you got undercut by someone else who decided to do yor job for less. therefore taking the quick upgrade you agreed to do on the cheap.
when will rah pilots realise what they (and mesa) did to the indusrty? maybe when the planes stop turning up. hmmm
sad bastards.

 

[cmrflyer]

and what reagional did you negotiate you payscale in line with?
Oh, right, maybe one that was four years past its experation date. nice

 

[Bluestreak]

and what reagional did you negotiate you payscale in line with?
Oh, right, maybe one that was four years past its experation date. nice

Um,how much negotiating did you do on the check you wrote to Comair,hmmm ? Now your making the big bucks at VA-bah ! Do you speak english ? You sure can't write it.

 

[aewanabe]

and what reagional did you negotiate you payscale in line with?
Oh, right, maybe one that was four years past its experation date. nice

Based on the profile, it sure looks like Jayme is a fellow VA guy who never worked for RAH, and you're throwing stones at him too?

Let's recap. RAH current pay sucks. It's a huge improvement over the previous CBA there, and secured scope over the entire holding company, preventing a repeat of Freedom/Go-Jets. They're trying to bring up the rates after a huge influx of E-Jets and merging with 2 mainline carriers. They need to do a decent job taking care of the YX guys who were screwed.

In the meantime, you PFT'd at OH and work for the lowest-paid A320 operator in the states, and yey like to scream at everyone about being w************************* and scumbags. Gotta love the internet....

 

[cmrflyer]

thats right dickface, i pft'd, if thats what gets you through the day keep on beliveing it.
I know the virgin payrates are low, but if you look at spirit and frontier you see our rates are the same, if not better than theirs. compare our rates to airtran.
you really should get your facts straight before you mouth off. i'm sure you're not as big a dick as you seem on FI, but i could be wrong.

 

[cmrflyer]

it does make me laugh, all the rah guys bang on about pft, yet they werent even at flt school when clownair stopped pft. i guess it makes them feel better about themselves, maybe thats what they remind themselves about every time the look at the dog turd of a contract they signed. well done boys, well done, you seem very proud, and you should be, theres nothing like working for next to nothing and letting your regional airline accrue so much cash you can buy two airlines and shove your crappy pay and work rules down their throat. fantastic.

 

[ultrarunner]

It will be fascinating to see the TA that gets sent to them.

 

[StaySeated]

thats right dickface, i pft'd, if thats what gets you through the day keep on beliveing it.
I know the virgin payrates are low, but if you look at spirit and frontier you see our rates are the same, if not better than theirs. compare our rates to airtran.
you really should get your facts straight before you mouth off. i'm sure you're not as big a dick as you seem on FI, but i could be wrong.

I don't really care, but since you mentioned it I thought you should know that VA rates are not close to F9's. These are the 10% concessionary rates that snap back next year, and they are still higher than yours

VA CA F9 CA

95 111
100 112
105 117
110 124
115 136
120 138 up to 156


Captain pay is around 12%-18% lower, not including the 6% DC contribution or snap back to book rates.

VA FO F9 FO

44 37
55 64
60 73
65 77
70 82
72 84

Again, no comparison.

I am not participating in the anti-VA rant, just correcting an inaccurate post. Take it for what it is worth, I will probably be giving the safety brief on a 1900 out of escanaba this time next week.

 

[dlzav8tr]

Stayseated,
I am not sure where you got those rates but they are not our concesionary rates. fourth year FO rate is $69hr.