Last MidEx 717 flight

[jayme]

Republic, just like any regional, set their pay rates in line with the other regionals. They had to, to remain competitive. Otherwise they would have priced themselves out of the market. Which would have meant goodbye to quick upgrades. Which is the whole reason for working for a regional.

You knuckleheads who think Republic should have had industry leading pay rates need to look around and realize that they COULDN'T have those rates and expect to keep those planes. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER REGIONAL THEY CONSIDER EACH CONTRACT WITH THIS IN MIND: IF WE GET TOO EXPENSIVE, WE WILL LOSE THE FLYING! It's not rocket science!

Now that the flying is branded, there is no excuse, of course. If the next contract is not close to industry standard, they will deserve some flak. Until then, back off, or show your true colors as a knuckle-dragging, "my sht hole regional is better than your sht hole regional" moron.

 

[cmrflyer]

the only reason you would become expensive is because you got undercut by someone else who decided to do yor job for less. therefore taking the quick upgrade you agreed to do on the cheap.
when will rah pilots realise what they (and mesa) did to the indusrty? maybe when the planes stop turning up. hmmm
sad bastards.

 

[cmrflyer]

and what reagional did you negotiate you payscale in line with?
Oh, right, maybe one that was four years past its experation date. nice

 

[Bluestreak]

and what reagional did you negotiate you payscale in line with?
Oh, right, maybe one that was four years past its experation date. nice

Um,how much negotiating did you do on the check you wrote to Comair,hmmm ? Now your making the big bucks at VA-bah ! Do you speak english ? You sure can't write it.

 

[aewanabe]

and what reagional did you negotiate you payscale in line with?
Oh, right, maybe one that was four years past its experation date. nice

Based on the profile, it sure looks like Jayme is a fellow VA guy who never worked for RAH, and you're throwing stones at him too?

Let's recap. RAH current pay sucks. It's a huge improvement over the previous CBA there, and secured scope over the entire holding company, preventing a repeat of Freedom/Go-Jets. They're trying to bring up the rates after a huge influx of E-Jets and merging with 2 mainline carriers. They need to do a decent job taking care of the YX guys who were screwed.

In the meantime, you PFT'd at OH and work for the lowest-paid A320 operator in the states, and yey like to scream at everyone about being w************************* and scumbags. Gotta love the internet....

 

[cmrflyer]

thats right dickface, i pft'd, if thats what gets you through the day keep on beliveing it.
I know the virgin payrates are low, but if you look at spirit and frontier you see our rates are the same, if not better than theirs. compare our rates to airtran.
you really should get your facts straight before you mouth off. i'm sure you're not as big a dick as you seem on FI, but i could be wrong.

 

[cmrflyer]

it does make me laugh, all the rah guys bang on about pft, yet they werent even at flt school when clownair stopped pft. i guess it makes them feel better about themselves, maybe thats what they remind themselves about every time the look at the dog turd of a contract they signed. well done boys, well done, you seem very proud, and you should be, theres nothing like working for next to nothing and letting your regional airline accrue so much cash you can buy two airlines and shove your crappy pay and work rules down their throat. fantastic.

 

[ultrarunner]

It will be fascinating to see the TA that gets sent to them.

 

[StaySeated]

thats right dickface, i pft'd, if thats what gets you through the day keep on beliveing it.
I know the virgin payrates are low, but if you look at spirit and frontier you see our rates are the same, if not better than theirs. compare our rates to airtran.
you really should get your facts straight before you mouth off. i'm sure you're not as big a dick as you seem on FI, but i could be wrong.

I don't really care, but since you mentioned it I thought you should know that VA rates are not close to F9's. These are the 10% concessionary rates that snap back next year, and they are still higher than yours

VA CA F9 CA

95 111
100 112
105 117
110 124
115 136
120 138 up to 156


Captain pay is around 12%-18% lower, not including the 6% DC contribution or snap back to book rates.

VA FO F9 FO

44 37
55 64
60 73
65 77
70 82
72 84

Again, no comparison.

I am not participating in the anti-VA rant, just correcting an inaccurate post. Take it for what it is worth, I will probably be giving the safety brief on a 1900 out of escanaba this time next week.

 

[dlzav8tr]

Stayseated,
I am not sure where you got those rates but they are not our concesionary rates. fourth year FO rate is $69hr.

 

[cmrflyer]

and what about spirits pay, or did you choose to ignor that one.
And the tranny's pay?

 

[StaySeated]

Stayseated,
I am not sure where you got those rates but they are not our concesionary rates. fourth year FO rate is $69hr.

Whoops, you are correct. The rates I posted are the book rates. Take 10% and you get our current rates. in 2011 they start snapping back and book rates return in 2012, if our CBA still exists in 2012. I correct another guy with incorrect numbers, brilliant!

 

[cmrflyer]

I thought those numbers were a bit off, but with the 10% reduction you can see how close the rates are.
Hopefully the new ownership of frontier wont screw you guys over, it sucks seeing an airline like yours ending up in republics hands.

 

[aewanabe]

and what about spirits pay, or did you choose to ignor that one.
And the tranny's pay?

You're right, VA pays slightly more than Spirit; slightly LESS than Airtran. Raising the bar?

I have nothing against VA, there's some great guys working there. What is bothersome is self-righteous jerks screaming their heads off about other pilot groups while not minding their own house.

 

[cmrflyer]

You're right! So why don't you shut up and fix the mess you created?

 

[aewanabe]

You're like a 4-year-old screaming "mom, she hit me" while poking your sister in the eye. I can list what I'm doing to try to improve things at B6. What are you doing to help the profession at VA? I sent an email to our hiring manager suggesting fast-track interviews for former YX when/if we hire in 2010. How about you?

Better yet, research my posts and tell me what mess I created again.

To the YX guys, my greatest sympathies and best of luck. I hope a fair integration will get you guys flying jets out of MKE sooner than later. For those whom that doesn't work for, hopefully we can find you some seats here at JetBlue sooner than later. With our recent pay changes and rigs it's a far better job than it used to be.

 

[johnboy99]

the only reason you would become expensive is because you got undercut by someone else who decided to do yor job for less. therefore taking the quick upgrade you agreed to do on the cheap.
when will rah pilots realise what they (and mesa) did to the indusrty? maybe when the planes stop turning up. hmmm
sad bastards.

Sounds like what Virgin America is all about. Work for cheap, quick upgrade and undercut the rest of the industry. Keep justifying your bottom feeder payrates by looking at Spirit and Airtran who have been in negotiations for a payraise longer than VA has been around. When you are the bottom feeder of an industry up is the only way to go. Good luck.

By the way when does VA publish results for the 3rd quarter. Can't wait to see if the cash on hand is 28 million or 2.8 million. I hear a huge sucking sound my friend. What say you???

 

[Moustache]

Word for word (SYX, though), I feel the same. Give me a 1900 and the folks at ESC, IWD, and MBL, and I was a happy camper. Good times.

Could not agree more, that was the best flying I have ever done......then it just got worse

 

[Moustache]

Saw a YX 717 fly over my house(MKE) heading west....very sad....

 

[ultrarunner]

What's MidEx 9341 doing tonight. Just cruising around one last time?

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