Kalitta Air

[albatros101]

Any update from Kalitta, more plane? Parking the classics?

 

[Victor Meldrew]

One more 400 on the way (crew bid is out for it), rumored 2 more basically a done deal.

Yes a couple of classics are due to be parked end of the year due to time and cycle's being met.

AMC from end of this month won't put flying on classics from any carrier.

The scuttlebutt around campus is that 7 400's needed like "last month" for predicted flying and Connie is out looking for airframes.

As for hiring, will have to see what level the classics are kept at as 200 and 400 crewed differently (7 crews classic approx., and 8 CA 14 FO's per 400) so you can see each new 400 sucks up quite a few FO's. So far no (official) talk of furlough's which is a good sign.

 

[Guam360]

One more 400 on the way (crew bid is out for it), rumored 2 more basically a done deal.

Yes a couple of classics are due to be parked end of the year due to time and cycle's being met.

AMC from end of this month won't put flying on classics from any carrier.

The scuttlebutt around campus is that 7 400's needed like "last month" for predicted flying and Connie is out looking for airframes.

As for hiring, will have to see what level the classics are kept at as 200 and 400 crewed differently (7 crews classic approx., and 8 CA 14 FO's per 400) so you can see each new 400 sucks up quite a few FO's. So far no (official) talk of furlough's which is a good sign.

How can 'furlough' even be a part of that entire comment?
unless you are considering FE's?

 

[bahumba]

How can 'furlough' even be a part of that entire comment?
unless you are considering FE's?

Obviously you don't speak management-ese. Furlough is always on thier minds as they seek to improve the bottom-line

 

[pilotyip]

Obviously you don't speak management-ese. Furlough is always on thier minds as they seek to improve the bottom-line

and if you don't pay attention to the bottom line you do not stay in business

 

[lionflyer]

The bottom line is more than fine at Kalitta believe me.

 

[Guam360]

The bottom line is more than fine at Kalitta believe me.

Yes, exactly, I don't understand these two previous posts, obviously they don't work at Kalitta, they probably fly at Evergreen.
Besides not furloughing in general, the math is easy, one plane, two planes, how and why would there be a furlough. Duh!

 

[Victor Meldrew]

OK to clarify, no "official" word of furlough, and yes furlough will only effect the FE's sadly.

They can't really do a furlough as you would have to cut deep into the 400 crews based on seniority (most new hires have been to the 400) and they are already short there. Cheaper just to have classic crews sitting and train as required when 400's arrive, park 200's to a level they want, furlough FE's and then street hire to the 400 as the 400 uses nearly 50% more FO's than CA's from the "classic pool".

 

[Guam360]

OK to clarify, no "official" word of furlough, and yes furlough will only effect the FE's sadly.

They can't really do a furlough as you would have to cut deep into the 400 crews based on seniority (most new hires have been to the 400) and they are already short there. Cheaper just to have classic crews sitting and train as required when 400's arrive, park 200's to a level they want, furlough FE's and then street hire to the 400 as the 400 uses nearly 50% more FO's than CA's from the "classic pool".

Are you on Mars, you don't really work here, right?

NOTHING to do with "cheaper". Seniority, how about that? 200 FO's will bid because they can, and will, and have the right to.

Furlough out of seniority, yes they did that once, I'll give you a few names to ask how that affected their lives unfairly.

If these three planes arrive, it will all wash itself out.

 

[lionflyer]

Are you on Mars, you don't really work here, right?

NOTHING to do with "cheaper". Seniority, how about that? 200 FO's will bid because they can, and will, and have the right to.

Furlough out of seniority, yes they did that once, I'll give you a few names to ask how that affected their lives unfairly.

If these three planes arrive, it will all wash itself out.

Yes they got away with it last time because there were a lot of guys on probation that the company threatened to fire if the union grieved it. Not gonna happen this time around and they know it!