Kalitta -400

[avbug]

New hires are going into the 400, but word is that it's not upgradeable.

 

[Xfr8dog]

My class on April 15th is all FO's and only 2 of the 12 are currently working at Kalitta. The other 10 are new hires. Only 7 of the 80ish FO's wanted to make the move.

 

[Guam360]

My class on April 15th is all FO's and only 2 of the 12 are currently working at Kalitta. The other 10 are new hires. Only 7 of the 80ish FO's wanted to make the move.

actually 7 out 80ish were over 1 year, they were not letting FO's less than 1 year receive a 400 bid, one FO going to 400 training just passed his 1 year mark.

 

[belchfire]

New hires are going into the 400, but word is that it's not upgradeable.

Perhaps for now...

 

[Xfr8dog]

New hires are going into the 400, but word is that it's not upgradeable.

What do you mean it's not upgradable? If you mean a new hire would have to wait 3-4 years before upgrading to Capt on the 400. Yes, you may be right. The trickle over effect from the senior captains realizing that he 400 isn't such a bad deal won't take long. Then, like any senority list it's just a matter of time...

 

[Xfr8dog]

actually 7 out 80ish were over 1 year, they were not letting FO's less than 1 year receive a 400 bid, one FO going to 400 training just passed his 1 year mark.

True. If you read our contract it says that there is an 18 month seat lock. This seems to be flexible based on company need.

 

[avbug]

What do you mean it's not upgradable? If you mean a new hire would have to wait 3-4 years before upgrading to Capt on the 400. Yes, you may be right. The trickle over effect from the senior captains realizing that he 400 isn't such a bad deal won't take long. Then, like any senority list it's just a matter of time...

I mean if a new hire wants to upgrade, more than likely he or she is going to need to go back to the Classic, work up in that, then bid back a captain seat once he or she has the seniority to hold captain in the 400...which might be quite some time.

You're not likely to see a 400 new hire FO upgrade to the left seat of the 400.

 

[Guam360]

True. If you read our contract it says that there is an 18 month seat lock. This seems to be flexible based on company need.

yea, the language isn't clear for a new hire. The 'new type of equipment' statement is weak also. Is a new hire actually in a seat lock, or is a seat incurred only from an actual bid? these are the questions the contract should be specific on.

 

[On Your Six]

I mean if a new hire wants to upgrade, more than likely he or she is going to need to go back to the Classic, work up in that, then bid back a captain seat once he or she has the seniority to hold captain in the 400...which might be quite some time.

You're not likely to see a 400 new hire FO upgrade to the left seat of the 400.

At least you got those small glass tubes on the 200 so that people don't get lost after flying the mighty 400...

 

[HalinTexas]

Wait, for a neo-phyte looking for a job....

APC.com has one pay scale for the B747.

Are you saying that your contract specifies the -200's and -400's as separate fleets? Flying doesn't require going back and forth between fleets?

Are you also saying that when you upgrade to CA that you go back to "year 1?"