Jumpseating after drinking.

[DeltaLima21]

I am not sure what turning him into pro standards would do, the new FO was a member of an airline that is not an ALPA participant.

A little education on the subject goes a long ways. If he knowingly did this, then he is walking on thin ice.

 

[WalterSobchak]

I have specifically not drank the night before, because there was the chance of having to jumpseat to get back from visiting friends. It sucks , but suck it up.

Same here.

I've never felt comfortable drinking if sitting in the cabin on a jumpseat agreement, either. Non-revving, hell yes, pass the free booze (I managed to kill off 5 and a half drinks between DEN and SLC today...)...but not while hitching a ride to/from work on another airline.

 

[siucavflight]

If this schmuck is among the ranks at RAH (Judging by the fact he was going to IND), even though we are IBT 747, we do have a very active pro stans comittee.

I would be more than happy to provide you the contact information.

While I appreciate the info T-Gates, I am not going to say where he worked at, and if the Captain wanted to take any further action I would support that decision. I do not really feel that it is my place to involve myself in this. To me the jumpseat belongs to the Captain, what happens in it, and who sits there is up to him.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

While I appreciate the info T-Gates, I am not going to say where he worked at, and if the Captain wanted to take any further action I would support that decision. I do not really feel that it is my place to involve myself in this. To me the jumpseat belongs to the Captain, what happens in it, and who sits there is up to him.

Sorry to read this... why not call the captain up and pursue it..... aren't FO's responsible and professional too?

 

[Wankel7]

The cockpit crew said they did not smell it until cruise. What are they going to do land the jet because of it ?

Now, the captain did cut this kid a huge break. He should have at least put this through to his jumpseat coordinator on an anonymous basis. I would have done that at LEAST. And the only reason would have been because of the jumpseaters response. "Oh, I know..." Wow, you are a cocky person. The response should have been "I am sorry and I am sorry to put you in this position. Thank you." And about nothing else.

I guess one major risk to this is what if a passenger noticed it before the cockpit crew did. And they just pointed a finger and said that pilot has booze on his breath and he is in the cockpit. He MUST be our pilot! Sounds the alarms....that would turn everything into a major problem for everybody and make the news.

If it was me and I smelled it upon the initial greeting I would pull him aside and decline the jumpseat. Being nice about it just won't cut it because of the possibility of a passenger smelling it before I did.

 

[siucavflight]

Wankel, I agree with you. If either one of us had noticed it before we took off I am sure that things would have been different. He was not in uniform, not that it matters, and you are right if the passengers had smelled it, it could have been big problems for us.

And Rez O, no doubt that we as FOs are responsible and professional. My job as an FO is to assist the Captain with everything that happens, and if I feel something is unsafe to continually bring it to the captains attention until a safe outcome can be obtained. In this case I did not feel that the safety of the flight was in jeapordy, and what happened to the jumpseater was up to the Captain not me.

 

[chqflyer]

I've gotta pipe up on this one. At least send a letter or phone call to our pro-standards about the incident. You don't have to name any-one or give too much info. Just a " this is something that occured" type thing. That would at least result in a few open ended memo's reminding some of these FU**ING CHILDREN we are now hiring that this is not a GO**AMN FU**ING FRAT PARTY!! OK Rant off...

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Johnny Cochran?

Kid coulda used the Chewbacca Defense.

 

[BoilerUP]

I hope, at the very least, you and/or your captain had a long talk about professionalism with your captive audience...

 

[Axel]

He will either wise up or fall victim to his own stupidity. Natural selection.

 

[wmuflyguy]

He will either wise up or fall victim to his own stupidity. Natural selection.

As long as he doesn't take anyone else with him

 

[Aerosurfer]

i was on an air canada flight once and the lead FA came back to my seat and said "the captain wants to buy you a drink."

what do you do? discuss....

Had this happen before, myself and the Captain were talking up at the gate before the flight and he hung out to see if I was going to make it on or not (pre-CASS days) after I was cleared he had me come down with him, introduced me to the lead FA we all chit chatted for a few, then he said to her, "Take care of him, anything he wants is fine with me" On her first drink pass, I asked for a Dr Pepper, she looked disappointed and insisted on a Heineken.... well 3 drinks later I was hanging out in the galley and had by far the most entertaining Jumpseat flight flights ever....

If the Captain offers.... all bets are off- Bottoms up!

 

[Metro752]

I have nothing nice to say.

 

[Avtrchris]

Not the right thing to do, at least I dont think so. Some are way to quick to eat their own in this industry.

*Cough* Go Jets *Cough*

 

[superatr]

I am not sure what turning him into pro standards would do, the new FO was a member of an airline that is not an ALPA participant.

If he showed up for a flight that he was jumpseating on and he had already been drinking, I would call a HIMS / EAP volunteer. He may have bigger troubles ahead of him.