Jumpseating after drinking.

[siucavflight]

Just wondering what your thoughts would be on this. I was flying last week and a younger regional FO stuck his head in the cockpit after boarding and asked if we minded him riding in the jumpseat from MIA to IND. This is a long flight in the ERJs jumpseat. The Captain said no problem. Kid straps in, and once we get to cruise I can smell alcohol on this guy, and I know the Captain can as well. After about an hour my Captain said to the young man "I know you are new to the airlines and I am not going to get you in trouble but for the future just so you know the same rules for drinking apply to you as an ACM as it does to the both of us, keep it in mind."
This kid looks at him and says "Oh I know I thought that I was going to get a seat in the back, and instead they stuck me up here."
Nothing was said other then that, and my Captain was a nice guy and let it slide, but he was pissed afterwards. I can understand a mistake, but this guy knew the rules and intentionally broke them.
Just thought I would share with you.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Just wondering what your thoughts would be on this. I was flying last week and a younger regional FO stuck his head in the cockpit after boarding and asked if we minded him riding in the jumpseat from MIA to IND. This is a long flight in the ERJs jumpseat. The Captain said no problem. Kid straps in, and once we get to cruise I can smell alcohol on this guy, and I know the Captain can as well. After about an hour my Captain said to the young man "I know you are new to the airlines and I am not going to get you in trouble but for the future just so you know the same rules for drinking apply to you as an ACM as it does to the both of us, keep it in mind."
This kid looks at him and says "Oh I know I thought that I was going to get a seat in the back, and instead they stuck me up here."
Nothing was said other then that, and my Captain was a nice guy and let it slide, but he was pissed afterwards. I can understand a mistake, but this guy knew the rules and intentionally broke them.
Just thought I would share with you.

Let's have a poll. Was the above meant to be flamebait? I vote yes.

 

[siucavflight]

Let's have a poll. Was the above meant to be flamebait? I vote yes.

Absolutely not, why would you suggest that?

 

[John Pennekamp]

Absolutely not, why would you suggest that?

I didn't look at the poster. Sorry, my bad. Coors Light induced paranoia. Carry on.

 

[siucavflight]

I just got home with a six pack of Fat Tire, geting ready for game time.

 

[CA1900]

...This kid looks at him and says "Oh I know I thought that I was going to get a seat in the back, and instead they stuck me up here."

Argh. It doesn't matter where you sit -- if you're jumpseating, you're an additional crewmember, and you need to be sober for it. Riding in the back doesn't change the rules, even if the FA offers you a drink.


If I were the captain, I'd route it through the jumpseat coordinators to make sure word gets out to that company. No need to mention the crewmember's name, but at least get the word out there, lest the whole agreement get killed when another walks into the cockpit reeking of the sauce.

 

[siucavflight]

Argh. It doesn't matter where you sit -- if you're jumpseating, you're an additional crewmember, and you need to be sober for it. Riding in the back doesn't change the rules, even if the FA offers you a drink.


If I were the captain, I'd route it through the jumpseat coordinators to make sure word gets out to that company. No need to mention the crewmember's name, but at least get the word out there, lest the whole agreement get killed when another walks into the cockpit reeking of the sauce.

I agree with you. I guess that some feel if they are in the back and in street clothes they can drink. Many do it, but to me he crossed the line once he found out that Eagle had issued him the 1W instead of a seat and he still decided to take it knowing full well that he was breaking an FAR.

 

[indianboy7]

I've had guys show up for the jumpseat with booze on their breath a few times.....none of them made it on the flight...it's not professional and there are no excuses for it. If you're jumpseating, you don't drink...end of story

 

[vectorvictor]

Fly, Drink, Sleep.....Repeat as necessary.

 

[Poahi]

"Oh I know I thought that I was going to get a seat in the back, and instead they stuck me up here."

The other moronic excuse I've heard is, "... the Captain released me to drink now that I'm sitting in the back."

These folks jeopardize our jumpseat privileges and put the Captain's ticket on the line.

 

[dash8driver]

i was on an air canada flight once and the lead FA came back to my seat and said "the captain wants to buy you a drink."

what do you do? discuss....

 

[CA1900]

what do you do? discuss....

See if she can leave it sealed so you can enjoy it in your hotel room. Everybody wins! :beer:

 

[siucavflight]

i was on an air canada flight once and the lead FA came back to my seat and said "the captain wants to buy you a drink."

what do you do? discuss....

Tell her no thanks.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Yea that guy was being stupid. "Additional Crew Member" says it all. I have specifically not drank the night before, because there was the chance of having to jumpseat to get back from visiting friends. It sucks , but suck it up.

 

[DeltaLima21]

I would have turned him in. People need to know the rules before they play the game. Inexperience is not an excuse.