Jumpseating after drinking.

[John Pennekamp]

You are still an idiot!!

Hey, speaking of which, I'm dying to know what the hell your avatar is supposed to be.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Hey, speaking of which, I'm dying to know what the hell your avatar is supposed to be.

Benny Hill

 

[BHS]

You high and mighty holy rollers kill me! You think you still have control of the cockpit when you don't. You speak of a jumpseater with alcohol on his/her breath and want something done. Why don't you grow some new ones and worry about more important things like pay,life,schedule....etc. This whole industry is in the toilet and your more worried about a jumpseater with booze on the breath. Get a life and prioritize!!! You want Professionism, it starts with YOU!!!!

 

[BoilerUP]

You high and mighty holy rollers kill me! You think you still have control of the cockpit when you don't. You speak of a jumpseater with alcohol on his/her breath and want something done. Why don't you grow some new ones and worry about more important things like pay,life,schedule....etc. This whole industry is in the toilet and your more worried about a jumpseater with booze on the breath. Get a life and prioritize!!! You want Professionism, it starts with YOU!!!!

So you approve of an ACM/OMC, on the flight deck, who has been drinking so close to departure time that they reek of alcohol?

Did I read that correctly?

Being professional is not asking for a free ride as an ADDITIONAL CREW MEMBER when you aren't fit for duty...just as being professional is refusing a ride to someone who can't put the sauce down close enough to departure time to keep from smelling like a still.

 

[RJLoser]

If he showed up for a flight that he was jumpseating on and he had already been drinking, I would call a HIMS / EAP volunteer. He may have bigger troubles ahead of him.

I'll second this.

 

[HalinTexas]

Too many freakin' jerks in this industry by the looks of the comments on this board.

I remember Tee-Dub well. Used ride them regularly back in the '90's. Always treated me well. Used to ask if I had a "wet suit." Thanks drinkin' clothes to you tea-totlers. I miss 'em, too.

I'll also give a big thank you to the AAL crew, except the FO, that got me home the day my airline shut down, and the FA's that gave me two bloody-mary's on the way home. Dispatch didn't want to let me on and the FO didn't either. The CA, someone whose jumpseat I sat on the month prior (stone-cold-sober), was very accomodating and helpful as well as another pilot positioning to training.

I'd tell the guy to buy some Altoids next time.

If you're ever my jumpseat rider sitting in back you can drink. Just not too much and don't make an a$$ of yourself.

 

[Max Q]

BHS: Priorities? While everyone is talking about airline cutbacks and furloughs, you're bumping threads that are almost 6 months old.

Anyway, yeah that's what I want when I'm trying to get back home... some a(beep)hole causing a passenger to smell alcohol on a crewmember's breath.

-Brett

 

[BoilerUP]

Too many freakin' jerks in this industry by the looks of the comments on this board.

In my mind, there's a big difference between having a drink or three after departure while riding in the back and asking the captain for a ride with alcohol on your breath, especially when you might have to ride the cockpit jumpseat.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I can't even believe we had to have this discussion. If you can't go without a drink long enough to jumpseat someplace you have a problem. You may not be an alcoholic, just an idiot.

Even after a night of partying for a friends bachelor party, I still waited 12 hours after the last drink to even go to the airport to ask for a ride...sometimes 8 hours or 12 hours won't even be enough. You can't show up all hungover and sweating out booze. The sauce affects everyone differently.

 

[Rook]

Too many freakin' jerks in this industry by the looks of the comments on this board.

I remember Tee-Dub well. Used ride them regularly back in the '90's. Always treated me well. Used to ask if I had a "wet suit." Thanks drinkin' clothes to you tea-totlers. I miss 'em, too.

I'll also give a big thank you to the AAL crew, except the FO, that got me home the day my airline shut down, and the FA's that gave me two bloody-mary's on the way home. Dispatch didn't want to let me on and the FO didn't either. The CA, someone whose jumpseat I sat on the month prior (stone-cold-sober), was very accomodating and helpful as well as another pilot positioning to training.

I'd tell the guy to buy some Altoids next time.

If you're ever my jumpseat rider sitting in back you can drink. Just not too much and don't make an a$$ of yourself.

WTF was up with the F/O? Did he tank an ATA interview years ago or something? Some people...

Reminds me of when I was a Comair pilot just prior to the strike. An ASA gate agent wouldn't let me catch a Brasilia j/s to my hometown from DFW. She said "You guys are on strike and you cant have the j/s" I just pointed out the window to the Comair jet taxiing from the gate and said, "we're not on strike yet" A good guy (ACEY CA) saw what was happening and 'educated' her that Comair was still flying and that if the j/s was available then I should be allowed to ride.

 

[HalinTexas]

I don't know. Didn't find out about it until a couple of weeks later while talking to an ATA friend who caught the next flight. That gate agent told him and he subsequently told me. He was denied the cockpit, but there was a seat in the back for him. Evidently, the FO called dispatch or someone and they were going to deny me.

It's all just stupid. If we don't take care of each other no one will.

 

[Moustache]

You high and mighty holy rollers kill me! You think you still have control of the cockpit when you don't. You speak of a jumpseater with alcohol on his/her breath and want something done. Why don't you grow some new ones and worry about more important things like pay,life,schedule....etc. This whole industry is in the toilet and your more worried about a jumpseater with booze on the breath. Get a life and prioritize!!! You want Professionism, it starts with YOU!!!!

So you are a drunk? Bet you can't wait for that big purple nose.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

 

[Dubya]

You high and mighty holy rollers kill me! You think you still have control of the cockpit when you don't. You speak of a jumpseater with alcohol on his/her breath and want something done. Why don't you grow some new ones and worry about more important things like pay,life,schedule....etc. This whole industry is in the toilet and your more worried about a jumpseater with booze on the breath. Get a life and prioritize!!! You want Professionism, it starts with YOU!!!!

For sexual intercourses sake...why is it that this profession revolves around alcohol? Fer cryin' in the mud..this isn't f'ing college anymore.

I have 17 f'ing days off a month...why the flock to I need to booze it up during my trips or going to and from work??

I've flown with guys that insist we are going on a bar crawl during overnights! For the love of vagina's a bar CRAWL!! I don't mind a few drinks with dinner but this isn't Kappa f'ing Sig.

Judas H. Titty Flopping Priest. Drink on your days off.


W

 

[Rook]

For sexual intercourses sake...why is it that this profession revolves around alcohol? Fer cryin' in the mud..this isn't f'ing college anymore.

I have 17 f'ing days off a month...why the flock to I need to booze it up during my trips or going to and from work??

I've flown with guys that insist we are going on a bar crawl during overnights! For the love of vagina's a bar CRAWL!! I don't mind a few drinks with dinner but this isn't Kappa f'ing Sig.

Judas H. Titty Flopping Priest. Drink on your days off.


W

Dude you sound like Roman Moronie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmQPdW7udy8

But I generally agree.:beer:

 

[whaleroast]

For sexual intercourses sake...why is it that this profession revolves around alcohol? Fer cryin' in the mud..this isn't f'ing college anymore.

I have 17 f'ing days off a month...why the flock to I need to booze it up during my trips or going to and from work??

I've flown with guys that insist we are going on a bar crawl during overnights! For the love of vagina's a bar CRAWL!! I don't mind a few drinks with dinner but this isn't Kappa f'ing Sig.

Judas H. Titty Flopping Priest. Drink on your days off.


W

I think alot of these guys have wives who don't let them drink when they are home.

 

[acaTerry]

On the other hand, the FARs prohibit alcohol on the FLIGHT DECK and say that no person shall be admitted to the flight deck following the consumption of alcohol. The FARs make no mention of an off-line jumpseater being prohibited from drinking in the cabin. You guys might think it's wrong, but it is certainly not illegal.

Actually you answer your own question here. "No person" would encompass the jumpseater.

 

[Starscream]

I think the discussion is about drinking in the cabin. And no matter what, there has to be some descretion to this. I won't stick my head in the cockpit asking for a ride with booze on my breath. However, if I'm out of uniform and siting in the cabin, I've got no problems with having a wine with my dinner.

A few months ago my dad and I were flying on a certain Atlanta based carrier from JFK to DUB. He had a positive space business class ticket, I was jumpseating. We got to go into the business class lounge and he got himself a beer and asked if I wanted one, too. I said I didn't want to, because I didn't want to blow beer in the captain's face when I ask him for a ride. He concurred it was probably smart.

They let us sit together in business, and then in cruise I had a few drinks with him. No big deal, if you ask me. Everyone will have different opinion on this I guess.

If we're talking about being under the influence while occupying an actual jumpseat (or while being in uniform) you'll get no argument from me that it's wrong.

 

[LITCHAT7]

Too many freakin' jerks in this industry by the looks of the comments on this board.

I remember Tee-Dub well. Used ride them regularly back in the '90's. Always treated me well. Used to ask if I had a "wet suit." Thanks drinkin' clothes to you tea-totlers. I miss 'em, too.

I'll also give a big thank you to the AAL crew, except the FO, that got me home the day my airline shut down, and the FA's that gave me two bloody-mary's on the way home. Dispatch didn't want to let me on and the FO didn't either. The CA, someone whose jumpseat I sat on the month prior (stone-cold-sober), was very accomodating and helpful as well as another pilot positioning to training.

I'd tell the guy to buy some Altoids next time.

If you're ever my jumpseat rider sitting in back you can drink. Just not too much and don't make an a$$ of yourself.

Amen!

I remember the TW days also. Sitt'n in first with 3 other TW guys tippin them back. I think the most important point is like you said (dont make and a$$ of yourself).

Are definitley a lot of high and mighties on this board. I think one poster made it clear that it is NOT an FAR bust drinking in the back. And as far as appropriate times to drink......I cant think of a better time (not that I have since TW) than after a 5-6 day trip and a 3.5 hour commute home to have one...or two....or....never mind. I guess now I need help also?

I think its funny how things run rampent on this board! The jumpseater (who nobody knows anything about) all of a sudden has marriage propblems and needs counciling and is a safety detrement to all!
Now, do I agree with what he did? HELL NO. I especially dont like the attitude displayed when busted. Personally I probably would have given the Father son speach and based on his attitude (which again did'nt impress me) may have pursued it further.

Anyway, the captains calling.....morgan that is!

 

[acaTerry]

Food for thought: Remember UAL232? Souix City crash? What if Dennis Fitch (the jumpseater IN BACK) was drinking? Probably would be a lot more bodies to count.