Jumpseating after drinking.

[wmuflyguy]

He will either wise up or fall victim to his own stupidity. Natural selection.

As long as he doesn't take anyone else with him

 

[Aerosurfer]

i was on an air canada flight once and the lead FA came back to my seat and said "the captain wants to buy you a drink."

what do you do? discuss....

Had this happen before, myself and the Captain were talking up at the gate before the flight and he hung out to see if I was going to make it on or not (pre-CASS days) after I was cleared he had me come down with him, introduced me to the lead FA we all chit chatted for a few, then he said to her, "Take care of him, anything he wants is fine with me" On her first drink pass, I asked for a Dr Pepper, she looked disappointed and insisted on a Heineken.... well 3 drinks later I was hanging out in the galley and had by far the most entertaining Jumpseat flight flights ever....

If the Captain offers.... all bets are off- Bottoms up!

 

[Metro752]

I have nothing nice to say.

 

[Avtrchris]

Not the right thing to do, at least I dont think so. Some are way to quick to eat their own in this industry.

*Cough* Go Jets *Cough*

 

[superatr]

I am not sure what turning him into pro standards would do, the new FO was a member of an airline that is not an ALPA participant.

If he showed up for a flight that he was jumpseating on and he had already been drinking, I would call a HIMS / EAP volunteer. He may have bigger troubles ahead of him.

 

[nimslow]

My dad tells a story, about jumpseating on an F-27 in Africa, back in the 70's. He was not an airline pilot, corporate only his whole life. But he stuck his head up in the cockpit, just to say hi, the captain insisted he ride up front.

After they got to cruise, the FA came up, and asked what they wanted to drink. The Captain asked for a gin and tonic, and the FO requested a beer. Dad says on that 45 minute flight, they each had three drinks. Guess that was the "good old days".

About 20 years ago, I was jumpseating on a TWA DC-9 (not in uniform). Introduced myself to the CA, he told me to have a seat in First class. I'm about half way back to my seat, when he yells back, loud enough for the whole plane to hear. "I'm only going to let you ride, if you drink two beers for me, and two for the FO!"

What are you going to do, orders from the PIC and all...

 

[schoolio]

I can understand a mistake, but this guy knew the rules and intentionally broke them.

A mistake is a mistake. I'd be willing to let a mistake slide. But intentionally breaking the rules? He deserves to be turned in.

 

[olympus593]

Cut the kid a break, may be he had a bad day IE wife cheating or what not, he wasn't even in uniform.
Back in the day ( not so long ago ) 2001, the old TWA crew (always the best) always put you in first class, always asked if you had a connection to make, and always told you to get your stripes off and have a few drink on them, what so bad about that?

 

[olympus593]

Y'all never F up, I hope someone turn you a-s-s's in!

 

[30West]

Cut the kid a break, may be he had a bad day IE wife cheating or what not, he wasn't even in uniform.

How does that excuse him?
Under the influence is under the influence. He needs to sober up, then fly home and deal with his problems some other way than drowning in booze.

 

[olympus593]

How does that excuse him?
Under the influence is under the influence. He needs to sober up, then fly home and deal with his problems some other way than drowning in booze.

I guess you will never ******************** up? We are all human, nobody is perfrect except for all the dorks on flight info. I've seen so pretty respectable guy's who got into some bad situation because of f up marriage etc, but I guess that could never be you!!!

 

[BLing]

Back when I could... I listed for the j/s on a UA 767 and got a first class seat. I went up and introduced myself to the crew. The CA said "There is a lav right behind me. I want you to go in and change into your street clothes, go sit down in first and enjoy all the free drinks you can handle." I politley declined the offer, as I was commuting to work and scheduled to land at show time... Even if I was going home I would have still said no. But it would have been tempting...

 

[BoeingBaller]

i was on an air canada flight once and the lead FA came back to my seat and said "the captain wants to buy you a drink."

what do you do? discuss....

You drink it

 

[BoeingBaller]

My dad tells a story, about jumpseating on an F-27 in Africa, back in the 70's. He was not an airline pilot, corporate only his whole life. But he stuck his head up in the cockpit, just to say hi, the captain insisted he ride up front.

After they got to cruise, the FA came up, and asked what they wanted to drink. The Captain asked for a gin and tonic, and the FO requested a beer. Dad says on that 45 minute flight, they each had three drinks. Guess that was the "good old days".

About 20 years ago, I was jumpseating on a TWA DC-9 (not in uniform). Introduced myself to the CA, he told me to have a seat in First class. I'm about half way back to my seat, when he yells back, loud enough for the whole plane to hear. "I'm only going to let you ride, if you drink two beers for me, and two for the FO!"

What are you going to do, orders from the PIC and all...

my kind of crew

 

[Flywrite]

I guess you will never ******************** up? We are all human, nobody is perfrect except for all the dorks on flight info. I've seen so pretty respectable guy's who got into some bad situation because of f up marriage etc, but I guess that could never be you!!!

Part of being a professional pilot (hell, a private pilot for that matter) is having the judgement to know when personal stuff is getting too much and getting youself out of cockpit environment.

If you're in the back of this guys airplane someday when is sails off the end of an icy runway are you just gonna shrug and say he must be having marital problems?

 

[30West]

I guess you will never ******************** up? We are all human, nobody is perfrect except for all the dorks on flight info. I've seen so pretty respectable guy's who got into some bad situation because of f up marriage etc, but I guess that could never be you!!!

You mean like showing up to ride the jumpseat already sauced?

Everyone has problems. But you're saying it's okay to show up intoxicated for the jumpseat, as long as it's for a good cause?

BTW, where did I claim to be perfect? You didn't read my posts apparently. If this guy really has problems, like we all do, and needs to get home so urgently then he needs to skip the booze until he gets there.

HIS alcohol issues are NOT my problem to deal with in the cockpit.

 

[John Pennekamp]

About 20 years ago, I was jumpseating on a TWA DC-9 (not in uniform). Introduced myself to the CA, he told me to have a seat in First class. I'm about half way back to my seat, when he yells back, loud enough for the whole plane to hear. "I'm only going to let you ride, if you drink two beers for me, and two for the FO!"

What are you going to do, orders from the PIC and all...

Back in the day ( not so long ago ) 2001, the old TWA crew (always the best) always put you in first class, always asked if you had a connection to make, and always told you to get your stripes off and have a few drink on them, what so bad about that?

Thanks for the memories. I think it was standard policy at TWA to tell the jumpseaters that there's a "three drink minimum". I miss that company.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Dikhed

Richard Cranium

 

[wms]

This guy jumpseats and has a beard too!

 

[pilotmyf]

Let's have a poll. Was the above meant to be flamebait? I vote yes.

You are still an idiot!!