Jetblue, VA ansd Skywest benefit from ALPA.......again...

[Erlanger]

SkyWest pilots don't have an enforceable contract. What you do have is federal statutes that prohibit companies from acting in a discriminatory way. If they set a policy, for example, that says employees can call in sick three times per year no questions asked, but they terminate a guy they don't like after he calls in sick twice, citing excessive absenteeism, then he has a case. It has nothing to do with having contractual rights. You just have the same rights as employees at any other company in this country.

You're just flat-out wrong. That document isn't worth the paper on which it's printed. The signatures are meaningless. Call a labor attorney if you don't want to believe me.

For starters from Wikipedia.

Thirty-seven U.S. states (and the District of Columbia) recognize an implied contract as an exception to at-will employment. Under the implied contract exception, an employer may not fire an employee "when an implied contract is formed between an employer and employee, even though no express, written instrument regarding the employment relationship exists." Implied employment contracts are most often found when an employer's personnel policies or handbooks indicate that an employee will not be fired except for good cause or specify a process for firing. If the employer fires the employee in violation of an implied employment contract, the employer may be found liable for breach of contract.

 

[EBE]

How many pilots at Skywest just "suck it up" when they get screwed because the mechanism in place is inadequate?

A lot.

 

[PCL_128]

For starters from Wikipedia.

Thirty-seven U.S. states (and the District of Columbia) recognize an implied contract as an exception to at-will employment. Under the implied contract exception, an employer may not fire an employee "when an implied contract is formed between an employer and employee, even though no express, written instrument regarding the employment relationship exists." Implied employment contracts are most often found when an employer's personnel policies or handbooks indicate that an employee will not be fired except for good cause or specify a process for firing. If the employer fires the employee in violation of an implied employment contract, the employer may be found liable for breach of contract.

All you did was copy and paste something that I already said in as many words. What you've copied above is referring to is due process through the employee handbook, which means that terminating someone without due process would be disparity of treatment.

However, what you've copied above has nothing to do with the work rules in your employee handbook. Your work rules and rates of pay can be changed at a whim, with no recourse for you. YOU HAVE NO CONTRACT!

 

[Erlanger]

All you did was copy and paste something that I already said in as many words. What you've copied above is referring to is due process through the employee handbook, which means that terminating someone without due process would be disparity of treatment.

However, what you've copied above has nothing to do with the work rules in your employee handbook. Your work rules and rates of pay can be changed at a whim, with no recourse for you. YOU HAVE NO CONTRACT!

So if your airline files for bankruptcy your ALPA contract is still binding?

 

[Rekks Inbound]

So if your airline files for bankruptcy your ALPA contract is still binding?

Yes, It is binding UNLESS abrogated by a bankruptcy judge in an 1113C hearing.

And it is this hearing process that caused the end of pensions at UAL, USAIR, etc, not ALPA.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[IBNAV8R]

So, any advances on the part of any pilot group, whether or not they are ALPA, can be directly attributed to the works of ALPA. (those guys got a free ride)

Any degradation to any individual pilot or pilot group, whether they are ALPA or not, is NEVER the failure of ALPA. (musta been a weak MEC, apathetic pilots, biased judges, etc.)

 

[theo]

I have yet to hear a reasoned and intelligent answer as to why Skywest, JB or VA pilots don't think they need to tow the line.... just like everyone else.

If there is a good reason why, let's hear it...


This news article is a perfect example... all the haters have come on and bash ALPA, but yet they can't even address the fact that they will benefit from ALPA working to put down this bill before DeMint can put it on the floor.

So instead of reading this news article and seeing the logic as to why they need to tow the line, just like everyone else, the freeloaders would rather complain that they got disprespected by an OC member or they got thier feelings hurt on a moniker messeage board.


When you guys are ready to be professional Air Line Pilots... the door is open... ball is in your court.....

Don't call us...we will call you

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Don't call us...we will call you

Not problem.... good luck....