JetBlue PVC/ Atkins and Co. Compensation video

[oldxfr8dog]

JetBlue is a great place to work. I am sorry that there is the 10% that will never be happy. Ask the people that have come over to JetBlue that have retired from other legacy airlines...............................

It's a GREAT place to work! If you were hired 12+ years ago...

 

[Splert]

It is a great place to work IF:

Your wife is a VP of some other company
You are covered by her health care plan
She has a retirement.

Other than that it is a great place to work if you were hired 12 years ago and:

You are single or

You are former Mil with your own Health care, Retirement and your wife teaches school or sold real estate in the early 2000s.

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when Obama folds retired mil health care benefits into the Exchanges.

How much is being sequestered in a few days?

 

[Splert]

Oh one more ... or you are furloughed from AA and to this day you think the DR is better than ALPA.

BTW, I'm fine here ... but I didn't sell my soul or check my brain like so many of those that the cult saved.

Sorry you have no other skill set other than reading a check list and flaring just before the aircraft says "Retard" ... "Just saying".

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Does it really matter where he came from. The only thing that matters is the way he will vote. Nothing wrong with being happy as long as you see the facts as they are and vote accordingly.

Agreed, though he seems to be missing some of those facts....

 

[$$$4nothin]

Agreed, though he seems to be missing some of those facts....

I hear ya. I am just sick of the he is new so he doesn't know crap. Or he has been here 12 years so he doesn't get it. He is from a regional so he is just happy JB is better than his regional, or he's military so health care doesn't matter, or cape air so he's young and dumb, or US air so he is old and has his, or he has recall right somewhere so he's a short timer. I have seen every prior career path bashed on at one point or another. JB has only been around 12 years so everyone here came from somewhere. So instead of bashing on eachother or saying where they came from or how long they have been here makes them an idiot why don't we all just get along, be happy, and get this vote moving along. I assure you it is easy to be happy, understand all the facts and still act and vote accordingly. Maybe it is just the Carribean meletonin that is making me less pessimistic today. Maybe I will be more angry when I am in the snow of the NE tomorrow.

 

[Joblu]

Sometimes you do things just on principle, even if it isn't in your personal interest. In fact, doing something on principle ONLY means something in those cases. It's easy to be principled when the principle is in line with your interests.

I don't care for ALPA National, and the beauty of it all is that I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone else.

You sir are an idiot.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

You sir are an idiot.

Oh my god. I now see the light. Hallelujah! I'm voting for ALPA!

Oh, wait, nope still a NO vote.

 

[Joblu]

Oh my god. I now see the light. Hallelujah! I'm voting for ALPA!

Oh, wait, nope still a NO vote.

You're still an idiot.

 

[jetflier]

Reasons to vote for ALPA representation:

Access to the ALPA online forum

ALPA lanyard for your ID

A gold tiepin in the shape of wings

Nice glossy covered magazine


You can deduct your ALPA dues when you file taxes

 

[ASA_Aviator]

You're still an idiot.

I'd rather be an idiot not paying 2% of my income to ALPA than a sheep that follows the "vote ALPA" crowd. Eff off.

 

[Joblu]

I'd rather be an idiot not paying 2% of my income to ALPA than a sheep that follows the "vote ALPA" crowd. Eff off.

I'd like to hear you say that when you ask for a jumpseat at an ALPA carrier you piece of crap. Yeah I thought so.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

I'd like to hear you say that when you ask for a jumpseat at an ALPA carrier you piece of crap. Yeah I thought so.

I don't bring up politics in the cockpit, and I don't fault anyone for being in a union. I don't fault you for wanting to vote yes to one.

I fault you for giving me crap for my decision to vote no to ALPA. That's what pisses me off. We all make our decisions for our own reasons. STFU.

 

[B6Busdriver]

I don't bring up politics in the cockpit, and I don't fault anyone for being in a union. I don't fault you for wanting to vote yes to one.

I fault you for giving me crap for my decision to vote no to ALPA. That's what pisses me off. We all make our decisions for our own reasons. STFU.

Please take 6 minutes and watch this....the DR is a fraud. I would love to know your opinion of this video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36YiO1scuZM

 

[StarChecker]

We all make our decisions for our own reasons. STFU.

That doesn't make our decisions the correct ones; just because it's yours.

Problems you have with ALPA national is not a good reason to vote no at JetBlue. This is supported by mountains of evidence, not emotions.

And you do answer to the rest of us. Your decision affects me and my family. You don't live in a vacuum and your decisions have consequences for the rest of us.

Of course, the lone gun pilot-serf is exactly what JetBlue wants. They don't like when we act collectively....reference their response to 3A.

Please consider the facts in this decision....not what happened to you at your craphole regional.


Try to follow...

1. We need a CBA. You said it yourself.
2. What's the fastest, most efficient way to negotiate a CBA?

If you answered "In house" to that question...you're not looking at the facts.

ALPA, with all its baggage, is clearly the fastest, most efficient way to negotiate our first CBA. An In house would be swamped by this management team. They are not going to work with us....trust me. I've been on one of your pilot committees. These people are not going to play nice with an In house. It will be exactly what we have now, except you get to pay dues. Useless.

So please...

Realize that your decision is not just yours. It affects all of us.
Let go of your ALPA history. It's clouding your judgement.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

And you do answer to the rest of us. Your decision affects me and my family. You don't live in a vacuum and your decisions have consequences for the rest of us.

Ok, you try to follow me now...

At my previous airline, I was supposed to accept membership in the union (which I did) because "I knew it was a union company when I got hired." So now, I've come to an airline that is non union, but I have to vote one in because I "don't live in a vacuum?" I applied here specifically because it is non union.

I think the same applies to you fellas. You knew this place was non-union when you came here, so I think the burden is on you, not me, to change it. I'm happy without a union. I came here not wanting one. If you want a union, by all means, vote you're little heart out. That's your right, and I respect that. But don't judge others for their decision to vote to keep the status quo.

As far as that video, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it. They are talking about a PR campaign. They actually were very honest, and open, and exactly what I would expect.

If they had said, "We fooled those pilots do our company can profit on their backs!!!" I may have joined up with y'all. No, they said the keeping the DR makes them more nimble, and better able to move in the market. I believe that is true, and it is a competitive edge JetBlue has. I want this to be my last company. I want them to have the competitive edge. That isn't a bad thing.