JetBlue Pilot News

[J3guy]

I'm curiuos how these wonderful union organizers at Jbpa got my address without my permission. What's next a couple of 300 pounder's showing up at my front door with a card to sign in hand? I was on the fence not any more.

hummm.... ever notice if you're a cfi, how every two years you get many unsolicited renewal offers from various places. same thing man

 

[PCL_128]

A good example of not knowing what is being signed. (Interest Cards) If 51% are returned there will be no vote. The NMB will recognize JBPA as a labor group. Just understand and read the fine print!

You are incorrect. I'm a former RLA union organizer. I've done a few of these drives. I know a thing or two about it. Interest cards, as you call them, (really called Authorization for Representation cards) are only used to determine whether a vote will be held. If you get 70% of them, then you still have a vote. I've worked a few ALPA drives that received quite a bit over 50% of the cards, but we still had to have votes. Get educated.

 

[elag777]

You are incorrect. I'm a former RLA union organizer. I've done a few of these drives. I know a thing or two about it. Interest cards, as you call them, (really called Authorization for Representation cards) are only used to determine whether a vote will be held. If you get 70% of them, then you still have a vote. I've worked a few ALPA drives that received quite a bit over 50% of the cards, but we still had to have votes. Get educated.

so you have a copy of the JBPA literature in front of you then?

 

[PCL_128]

so you have a copy of the JBPA literature in front of you then?

If the JBPA literature says what you're claiming, then it's incorrect. I know the law.

 

[rayford steele]

The Jetblue pilots are divided into two main groups. Airbus captains and everybody else.

Hey Genius,
You want to know what group has the lowest interest (cards)? 320 FO's....thats right FO's.

 

[Jet41]

1600-2000 Guys that came from commuter jobs, are just happy to be here, and think that everything blue rules.

This might be be one of the most arrogant statements I've seen regarding possible organization at Jetblue, the very idea that the bottom 400 guys be it commuter or otherwise don't have the "wisdom" to make an informed decision is a slap in the face of the pilots you speak of. Statements like this help no one, and certainly not those supporting the organizational drive.

 

[CaptainSpaz]

so you have a copy of the JBPA literature in front of you then?

The company would have to agree to that. So... if JBPA had 50%+1 or more and JetBlue was to consent to certiication, the NMB *could* certify JBPA without a vote.

Does that clear things up?

 

[elag777]

The company would have to agree to that. So... if JBPA had 50%+1 or more and JetBlue was to consent to certiication, the NMB *could* certify JBPA without a vote.

Does that clear things up?

I wasn't muddy...but thanks...

 

[CaptainSpaz]

I wasn't muddy...but thanks...

Just making sure, because in your previous post it appeared you didn't know that the company had to consent. My mistake.

 

[JT12345]

1600-2000 Guys that came from commuter jobs, are just happy to be here, and think that everything blue rules.

Commuter jobs?

Do those guys from Cape Air have a union or are you talking about the guys outta college cause most of the commuter guys probably came from a union carrier.

As for commuter jobs the reason why you guys are voting for a union is because everyone except Airbus Captains are getting paid commuter pay. So unless oil drops below $100/barrel you are looking at commuter pay for the next 10 years until you make Airbus Captain.

I wish your group the best of luck in these times. Statements like these are divisive.

 

[PCL_128]

The company would have to agree to that. So... if JBPA had 50%+1 or more and JetBlue was to consent to certiication, the NMB *could* certify JBPA without a vote.

Does that clear things up?

Even that isn't 100% correct. Yes, the company could agree to certify in that case, but a group of the pilots could also object and demand an election, or an alternate union could object and demand an election. If there's no objection, then yes, the company could agree to certify. But I think everyone knows that that won't happen.

 

[elag777]

Just making sure, because in your previous post it appeared you didn't know that the company had to consent. My mistake.

No worries! there was enough grey in my statement to read that into the interpretation. I was suggesting that people may think it is "just" an interest card, and my point to PLC was he should know that there could potentially be "no" vote, with >51% (unlikely) if agreed to by the company if he knew the law as stated.
Cheers Spaz!