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I would say that about 95% of the FO's that I fly with are for a union. About 85% of the 190 CA's that I know are for a union. Most of the 320 FOs that I know are for a union. Even some of my good friends that are 320 CA's and senior are for a union. Yes, there are guys and gals on the fence but it will be interesting to see what happens after the 26th of the month.
 
I'm one of the "horrible 100" and I'd like to know how I can make this mythical $200k a year someone claims we make. I've been trying for eight years and can't get close.

And, I'm 100% for JBPA, like most of the other senior pilots. I got off the fence months ago, but Dave Barger's latest email knocked a lot of other guys off the fence and onto the pro-JBPA side.
 
Basically he put it in the open that we're seeking a union and stated he was categorically against it; then comment thread on the company website was opened so all the uneducated rampers and gate agents could bitch about how selfish and overpaid we are...

For Click Click: kinda a divisive overview man. I'm 1800-ish, glad to be here, came from a mid-grade "commuter", and sent in my card months ago. Something about my health-care costs tripling, pen-and-ink changes to my work conditions, etc...
 
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I a military guy not much interested in unions. I have been at JB for 2+ years and am very happy here. While I do respect Dave and friends are don't have a specific beef with them, I sent in my card months ago. There is a lot of stuff out there that is beyond their control - that's mostly what motivates me to support JBPA.

I don't know Mike Sorbie or the other interim officers, but is seems like they want an organization that management can get along with. I think we're looking more for protections than payraises that revenue can't support.
 
aewanabe said:
Basically he put it in the open that we're seeking a union and stated he was categorically against it; then comment thread on the company website was opened so all the uneducated rampers and gate agents could bitch about how selfish and overpaid we are...
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Of course he's categorically against it! Well, good luck to you guys. I think it's in the best interest of our profession that all pilots be unionized (and even better under one union!), so I hope that the JBPA drive is successful, and soon. Unless, of course, your rampers and CSR's disagree :)
 
ultrarunner said:
I'm glad JB decided to go internal.
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That's great that they decided to go internal, but I hope that one of the first things the JBPA does is get a JBPA-PAC started. There are many issues EXTERNAL to JetBlue that may adversely affect their career expectations (and all airline pilots for that matter), so it would be great to get a couple thousand more pilots trying to influence Washington's decisions as they concern airline pilots. Maybe a JBPA-PAC could reach out to other non-union airline pilots out there and get them to contribute to a JBPA-PAC as well because, of course,a JBPA-PAC won't be as "evil" as the ALPA-PAC is, for example, and perhaps more pallatable for the ALPA haters to contribute to.

Just dreaming out loud, I guess....
 
ultrarunner said:
I'm glad JB decided to go internal.
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That's great that they decided to go internal, but I hope that one of the first things the JBPA does is get a JBPA-PAC started. There are many issues EXTERNAL to JetBlue that may adversely affect their career expectations (and all airline pilots for that matter), so it would be great to get a couple thousand more pilots trying to influence Washington's decisions as they concern airline pilots. Maybe a JBPA-PAC could reach out to other non-union airline pilots out there and get them to contribute to a JBPA-PAC as well because, of course,a JBPA-PAC won't be as "evil" as the ALPA-PAC is, for example, and perhaps more pallatable for the ALPA haters to contribute to.

Just dreaming out loud, I guess....
 
I believe JBPA will join CAPA in order to have a presence outside of JetBlue instead of just internally. Nothing is set in stone, but we all recognize that the world doesn't just revolve around Forest Hills.
 
JB guys. Im was on the second to last class before we stopped hiring. I have been trying to register into bluepilots.com and it doesnt recognize my crew # or my name for that matter. Can any of you guys guide me to the right direction so I can register. Please PM me.
Thanx
 
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Hair-on-Fire said:
Don't think that's right. It's only 35% to have a vote, but most organizing efforts wait until they have significantly more to petition for a vote. More than 50% have to then vote for representation for it to succeed. Whichever agent receives the most votes will represent the group.


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You are correct, sir. Only 35% required to hold a vote. However, most unions will wait until a significant majority turn in cards. ALPA doesn't like to disclose what their threshold is, but I can say that it's quite a bit higher than 35%, and even quite a bit higher than 50%. I would imagine that the JBPA is probably using similar benchmarks before petitioning for an election. Just because they haven't filed doesn't mean that they haven't gotten a majority of the cards.

I wish the JB guys luck on this. I've been seeing a lot of JB pilots with the JBPA stickers on their bags, so that's a good sign. Is the JBPA still looking for donations from pilots outside of JB?
 
ualdriver said:
That's great that they decided to go internal, but I hope that one of the first things the JBPA does is get a JBPA-PAC started.
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As someone else mentioned, CAPA-PAC already exists. NPA, IPA, SWAPA, etc... are already member airlines. It's not exactly very powerful, and doesn't really get any attention from CapHill like ALPA-PAC does, but I guess it's better than nothing.
 
PCL_128 said:
As someone else mentioned, CAPA-PAC already exists. NPA, IPA, SWAPA, etc... are already member airlines. It's not exactly very powerful, and doesn't really get any attention from CapHill like ALPA-PAC does, but I guess it's better than nothing.
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I agree PCL, but trying to convince 95% of the guys on this forum about the effectiveness of any of those groups vs. ALPA and/or the ALPA-PAC is pretty much wasted time! ALPA took their pensions, ALPA furloughed them, ALPA gave them paycuts, ALPA is the reason we have age 65, etc., etc., is pretty much the norm on flightinfo.com- as you well know. So if they at least give to any PAC that represents the interests of airline pilots, even if they're not as effective as ALPA-PAC, it's better than nothing as you say.
 
I'm curiuos how these wonderful union organizers at Jbpa got my address without my permission. What's next a couple of 300 pounder's showing up at my front door with a card to sign in hand? I was on the fence not any more.
 

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