JetBlue minimums clarification

[aewanabe]

I agree it's frustrating... I have several Big Sky guys in my crashpad and asked Verna about it, no dice. It would be nice to try to help them out.... On the other hand we're really not hiring many guys with only right-seat time so your example isn't really holding water. (Not to mention by the time they see left seat of a JB Bus they'll probably have seven or eight years here).

 

[82spukram]

I agree I think their is only a hand full of people with no TPIC time on property and I know (not trashing them just saying) CAL has a lot more FOs with no PIC Turb time.

 

[IronCityBlue]

My point is you could have a jet fo that was from an accelerated course like san juan in farmington where they have their bare mins for their commercial ticket.

They sit in the right seat for 1000 hours and then go to JB because of the weight of the aircraft qualifies them at JB. No TPIC..... No JET PIC but they qualify for the jet b/c of it's weight.

I with 3000 hours of TPIC in the B1900 does not. The first time they make a big decision will be in the Left seat of a JB airbus.

How does that make any sense? Why would you give experience for weight of A/C and why even try to upgrade ever especially if you want to go to JB. Sure that's the way it is and I'm fine with that but it still makes no sense.

While I understand what you're saying and appreciate the point you're trying to make, I just wanted to say that I'm very sure we've never hired a civillian pilot with 1300 hours total time, no turbine PIC time, etc. While I suppose our mins might technically allow that, while disallowing a highly qualified B-1900 Captain, I really don't think that's ever happened. I'm only aware of a few pilots hired without any turbine PIC, and every one I knew of had substantial total, turbine, jet, etc time far, far exceeding "legal mins" plus 1000 right seat in an RJ.

Again I'm not arguing that the B-1900 pilot you described shouldn't be given an opportunity, just that the mins are just that. Mins. Flight academy to RJ and one year later JetBlue just does not happen, even though I suppose in theory it could.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

A guy had offers from FedEx and SWA... but JB wouldn't talk to him... then there was a jb mechanic turned pilot who had zero PIC time and he got on...

 

[jmreii]

A guy had offers from FedEx and SWA... but JB wouldn't talk to him... then there was a jb mechanic turned pilot who had zero PIC time and he got on...

JB knew the mechanic, that's called human resources 101, been happening since the beginning of time.

 

[IronCityBlue]

A guy had offers from FedEx and SWA... but JB wouldn't talk to him... then there was a jb mechanic turned pilot who had zero PIC time and he got on...

Being a mechanic for the same airline you're applying to be a pilot for is a huge feather in one's cap, as it should be. Beats the ehck out of stuffing Jepps for a few months as an intern and jumping to the head of the line just because of that. And what kind of times this this pilot have that JB wouldn't consider him, yet SWA and FX would? All 1900 time I guess? I suppose those guys are left out in the cold because of our mins. Many extremely qualified pilots were excluded at AirTran when they came out with their 500 hours 121/mil PIC requirement, but all mins are arbitrary to some. I just hope the dark days of 300TT for the major airlines (you know, for some "qualified" applicants) are a thing of the past. THAT was BS of epic proportions.

 

[sligo1]

I flew with that F.O./ Mechanic at another carrier. He was my F.O. on many trips. He is an outstanding person and was a very good dedicated pilot for relativley " low time ". He also put in quite a few years turning wrenches at JB and doing what he could for the company. I agree with you about the 1900 PIC time, but don't use this guy as an example. Every airline has these same kind of stories.

 

[Joblu]

Looks like hiring mins are going to change. Stay tuned.

 

[Capn Sac]

Any word on when it goes public? Will it be before the end of the month?

 

[Joblu]

Any word on when it goes public? Will it be before the end of the month?

Likely by the end of the month. It is being talked about.

 

[avratdwc]

Any idea of what is going to change. Are they going to become stricter or do away with turbojet/20K MTOW one. God I hope thats the case.

 

[RightTraffic]

mins

Any idea of what is going to change. Are they going to become stricter or do away with turbojet/20K MTOW one. God I hope thats the case.

I hear that brother!

 

[Joblu]

Don't know the details but rest assured it is being reviewed.

 

[avratdwc]

Any word on when this change will be announced?

Thanks,

Avrat

 

[slackass]

Any word on when this change will be announced?

Thanks,

Avrat

The first of the month..... They're just not saying which month.