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The 190 will be the lowest paid 100 seater in the industry if our mgmt. establishes the pay rates they want. It kind of bums me out. Guys at Comair will be making more flying a 50 seater.
Bill Nelson said:Ya, then they all will hope that they can move on to a major airline and fly real airplanes. RJ's are for building time.
Right, until you and I stand up and tell management that we deserve normal 121 jet pay on those airplanes. Not deflated "regional" pay. The regionals were typically mom and pop companies, hence the low pay. Now these airplanes are being flown by the majors in one way or another but still garner mom and pop wages. We do it to ourselves by allowing it. One day, I am hoping that the Embraers will just become another fleet type at the majors, pay will be less than the other larger airplanes but in line with them at the same time, right now they aren't.Ya, then they all will hope that they can move on to a major airline and fly real airplanes. RJ's are for building time.
Bill Nelson said:what exactly is the difference between JetBlue's E-190's and mainline-operated DC-9's, B-717's, and F-28's?
The difference is the guys who fly the 9's 717 and f28's are paid good wages and respected by their peers. Typically speaking, the RJ has served to only lower the bar for everyone and therefore it is not a welcome addition to commercial aviation. Unfortunetly, you guys at JB have built a reputation as arrogant jerks that walk around the terminals in blue shirts with hair on your face and disrespect the rest of the professionals in this industry. Now you guys are getting RJ's and don't have a union to negotiate a good rate to set the bar for this airplane. Thus, the rest of the industry will suffer. That is the difference between you guys flying the ERJ's 190 and the folks who fly the B717, F28, and Dc-9's.
airbaker said:I was hoping we'd have one payrate for all a/c on our property. It would sure go a long way in preventing the walls and divisions that inevitably form with different fleet types (how come the EMB guys are getting all the San Juan layovers now...why can't "we" get more productive trips, etc...) Not to mention the costs saved in training (seat locks can only do so much)