Jet Blue open house

[Afixedwing]

Had a Jet Blue jumpseater several days ago tell me about an upcoming open house this month/next month.
Anyone know when and where?
Also, what are the odds of getting FLL right out of class?

thanks

 

[Dogwood]

Had a Jet Blue jumpseater several days ago tell me about an upcoming open house this month/next month.
Anyone know when and where?
Also, what are the odds of getting FLL right out of class?

thanks

Hello Blue Pilots:

Please pass the word that we are hosting a Pilot Open House on Thursday, April 19 at the Orlando Support Campus from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Attached is an eflyer for you to send to competitive candidates interested in joining the JetBlue Team. Our previous events have been extremely successful as you continue to invite Pilots that emulate our values and reflect the same high level of professionalism as you.

The Open House is a great opportunity for candidates to get a good taste of our culture. During their visit we showcase the campus with tours conducted by the Flt Ops Training Team. The Flt Ops and Training Leadership Team gather candidates in the Auditorium for an overview of the "JetBlue Pilot Job" and solicit questions while providing candid answers. Candidates also meet with a Pilot Recruiter to review their resume and clarify questions or concerns.

Thank you for helping us promote this event and for your contribution in growing our culture!

Verna Kay
Director, Pilot Recruitment

 

[Lake Alice]

I suspect you could get FLL within 4 to 6 months out of training. Given the attrition rates it could be sooner. Holding a line in FLL could be closer to a year. Also, reserve FO's at FLL(good or bad) do not fly very much.

 

[Afixedwing]

Given the attrition rates it could be sooner.

Why the attrition?

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

pay

Why the attrition?

Lousy pay compared to LUV/FDX/UPS. First year pay is lowered.

 

[jbucpt]

Why the attrition?

because we were naive (or some say stupid) for hiring furloughed guys from DELTA,USAIR, UNITED etc.etc. without having them resign from their carrier. (with that said, most of the furloughed guys we hired are great guys, who will be missed)

the other reason, just like they did at SWA, AMERICA WEST, TWA in the 90's, guys are going to higher paying carriers. its the nature of the beast.

 

[DougsRule]

Lousy pay compared to LUV/FDX/UPS. First year pay is lowered.

Here's the high-lights. (low-lights?)

Starting pay ALL SEATS (A320-E190) is $47/hour​

401K now 5%​

No B fund​

NO STOCK OPTIONS. (Used to get 6000!)​

Oh yes... and knowing that the last A-320, $125,000 plus captain is already on the property.​

But, People are OK, Pref bidding rocks, all the snacks you can eat and you can look like a criminal in a goatee so who needs pay?

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Here's the high-lights. (low-lights?)

Starting pay ALL SEATS (A320-E190) is $47/hour​

401K now 5%​

No B fund​

NO STOCK OPTIONS. (Used to get 6000!)​

Oh yes... and knowing that the last A-320, $125,000 plus captain is already on the property.​

But, People are OK, Pref bidding rocks, all the snacks you can eat and you can look like a criminal in a goatee so who needs pay?

1. Sure lower first year pay, but better rates on 3 seats (counting the first 190 raise). I said better. Definitely room for improvement (especially in year 2 bus FO and all CA rates).

2. 5% 401k AND 5% guaranteed profit sharing payment.

3. B fund being looked at. Apr 16? Go check that email you got from SG again.

4. Stock Options? WHO THE F- CARES. Of the pilot group, I bet 75% plus are under water. Time is clicking away btw. I got in before the split which really means I have 3,000 more worthless options than you do.

5. Mark my words, we will soon become an Embraer airline. The Bus side movement is minimal. They just said no upgrades in the May bid (for June) and promptly slid two May classes in order to get our pitiful FO training program back on track. Don't expect any upgrades during the summer -- it's just cheaper to RSA then it is to pay monthly CA guarantees. Attrition may solve some of your upgrade problems, but with the fence coming down and all, who knows. At 50-70 a year, that makes it a 4-6 year upgrade for me (low 1200s) FROM TODAY. That's without anymore delivery snafus or Airbii sales.

Note: the last CA bid went surprisingly deep into the seniority list (low 900s). There are still a lot of bubbas bypassing because reserve is now at 17 months and counting (ref: a CA friend of mine). He predicts 2-3 more months. Reserve improvements could go both ways. Maybe some dudes who have been bypassing will fleet up, maybe not. I of course put my Bus CA bid in for any seniority level. Maybe I will snag the left seat on a wild pitch. But to pass up the seat (and the PIC) could prove disastrous (read Embraer comment again) for those determined to wait.

Fortune Favors the Bold.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Oh yes... and knowing that the last A-320, $125,000 plus captain is already on the property.​

Please excuse the ignorance but the above comment is just based on what is already on the property correct?

 

[DougsRule]

Please excuse the ignorance but the above comment is just based on what is already on the property correct?

200 A-320 on order or on property. Manning currently at 7-7.5 Crews per bus. 200 X 7.5 = 1500. Currently 1700 (+) on property.

I agree We'll se more E-190 before Airbus.

 

[Captzaahlie]

200 A-320 on order or on property. Manning currently at 7-7.5 Crews per bus. 200 X 7.5 = 1500. Currently 1700 (+) on property.

I agree We'll se more E-190 before Airbus.

Thanks Doug, thats what I thought...... maybe some more creative financing will bring in those 380's............. I know a reckless thought but it's like I tell my wife, "hell you can't blame a guy for trying right?"

 

[Truckdriver]

200 A-320 on order or on property. Manning currently at 7-7.5 Crews per bus. 200 X 7.5 = 1500. Currently 1700 (+) on property.

I agree We'll se more E-190 before Airbus.

Of course none of this will matter when we are bought by a legacy carrier. If they ratioed us in, it wouldn't be that bad to be in the top 20% of the 320 FO list. I could live with being in the top 20% of a legacy narrowbody FO list.

 

[jbucpt]

Here's the high-lights. (low-lights?)

Starting pay ALL SEATS (A320-E190) is $47/hour​

401K now 5%​

No B fund​

NO STOCK OPTIONS. (Used to get 6000!)​

Oh yes... and knowing that the last A-320, $125,000 plus captain is already on the property.​

But, People are OK, Pref bidding rocks, all the snacks you can eat and you can look like a criminal in a goatee so who needs pay?

what's left over from your USAIR retirement and pay?????

why havent you taken your USAIR recall???????????????????????

 

[LocoPiloto]

Of course none of this will matter when we are bought by a legacy carrier. If they ratioed us in, it wouldn't be that bad to be in the top 20% of the 320 FO list. I could live with being in the top 20% of a legacy narrowbody FO list.

Thats funny! All I have read on these boards is how DOH is the only way to go.

I think any legacy will give you guys date of hire, that would work for them and look good to anyone else. Why would you be ratioed ahead of someone?

Loco

 

[DougsRule]

what's left over from your USAIR retirement and pay?????

why havent you taken your USAIR recall???????????????????????

Not written for myself... just the guys who want to come here.

 

[Truckdriver]

Thats funny! All I have read on these boards is how DOH is the only way to go.

I think any legacy will give you guys date of hire, that would work for them and look good to anyone else. Why would you be ratioed ahead of someone?

Loco

Same reason the Western guys were ratioed in with the Delta guys when they merged. A DOH would essentially be a staple at any legacy. My take is that without ALPA we would get a DOH integration. With ALPA, we may have a glimmer of hope for some sort of ratio integration. In any case, it probably would not be good to be on the bottom half of the B6 list. This is also one of the dozen factors that are causing some guys to leave for something better.

 

[IrishjbPilot]

Hey Peter, if you are so unhappy, leave. You are the only one I know that still rants and raves about boeing and unions...yet you are at a non unionized airline flying anything but boeings.

 

[Flyboi]

...and you can look like a criminal in a goatee so who needs pay?

Or look like a complete dork when walking through the terminal in a baseball cap with your uniform. You got your recall, dude. Why aren't you taking it?

 

[Captzaahlie]

Regarding the good bad and the ugly @ JB.........I think those of us considering JB need to hear the good and the bad from the avg. joe on the line. We can then make a better choice if we are lucky enough to receive an offer for employment...... So far from what I've read and what a half dozen of my friends there (@JB) tell me it ain't perfect but it sure as heck beats my current gig............ those (even though they are flat) stock options would have been nice though,just in case........

 

[Captzaahlie]

Or look like a complete dork when walking through the terminal in a baseball cap with your uniform. You got your recall, dude. Why aren't you taking it?

sounds like quite the fashion statement

 

[Captzaahlie]

Or look like a complete dork when walking through the terminal in a baseball cap with your uniform. You got your recall, dude. Why aren't you taking it?

sounds like quite the fashion statement, then again maybe I shouldn't comment as he could just be shy about being folically challenged or something. In the cockpit its one thing but out in a public place like the terminal I think it's lacking a little class....
sorry for the double post my treo managed that by itself w/ a page lock up..........

 

[Lake Alice]

Regarding the good bad and the ugly @ JB.........I think those of us considering JB need to hear the good and the bad from the avg. joe on the line. We can then make a better choice if we are lucky enough to receive an offer for employment...... So far from what I've read and what a half dozen of my friends there (@JB) tell me it ain't perfect but it sure as heck beats my current gig............ those (even though they are flat) stock options would have been nice though,just in case........

Its not a bad place to work if you remember this is just a job and not a career. Bus captains do well but the rest struggle. The pay is still below standard. As for the rest you have to look at who is feeding you info. The blue juice drinkers at Jetblue are cultish. Ive never seen anything like it. But there is also a good bunch of people who hate it here. You have to read between the lines. Heres how I look at it. Until the industry gets back to normal and starts hiring again Jetblue is not a bad place to work. You wont make any money but you wont hate your job either.

 

[Widow's Son]

>>Of course none of this will matter when we are bought by a legacy carrier. If they ratioed us in, it wouldn't be that bad to be in the top 20% of the 320 FO list. I could live with being in the top 20% of a legacy narrowbody FO list.<<

Yeah right, call Make a Wish. In the highly unlikely event that a legacy were to merge with JetBlue, that clicking sound you would hear would be the stapler.

 

[GuppyPuppy]

I've sent the invitation to 6 of my friends who work at the regionals. All qualified and all have bigger things in mind than flying for the regionals.

None of them wanted to go.

GP

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Its not a bad place at all. The pay, well of course it needs to go up but then we have only been around for 7yrs. Now, the health plans here, they suck big time!!

 

[zkmayo]

Its not a bad place at all. The pay, well of course it needs to go up but then we have only been around for 7yrs. Now, the health plans here, they suck big time!!

Agreed, but newsflash...they suck almost everywhere for most Americans.

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

1. Sure lower first year pay, but better rates on 3 seats (counting the first 190 raise). I said better. Definitely room for improvement (especially in year 2 bus FO and all CA rates).

2. 5% 401k AND 5% guaranteed profit sharing payment.

3. B fund being looked at. Apr 16? Go check that email you got from SG again.

4. Stock Options? WHO THE F- CARES. Of the pilot group, I bet 75% plus are under water. Time is clicking away btw. I got in before the split which really means I have 3,000 more worthless options than you do.

5. Mark my words, we will soon become an Embraer airline. The Bus side movement is minimal. They just said no upgrades in the May bid (for June) and promptly slid two May classes in order to get our pitiful FO training program back on track. Don't expect any upgrades during the summer -- it's just cheaper to RSA then it is to pay monthly CA guarantees. Attrition may solve some of your upgrade problems, but with the fence coming down and all, who knows. At 50-70 a year, that makes it a 4-6 year upgrade for me (low 1200s) FROM TODAY. That's without anymore delivery snafus or Airbii sales.

Note: the last CA bid went surprisingly deep into the seniority list (low 900s). There are still a lot of bubbas bypassing because reserve is now at 17 months and counting (ref: a CA friend of mine). He predicts 2-3 more months. Reserve improvements could go both ways. Maybe some dudes who have been bypassing will fleet up, maybe not. I of course put my Bus CA bid in for any seniority level. Maybe I will snag the left seat on a wild pitch. But to pass up the seat (and the PIC) could prove disastrous (read Embraer comment again) for those determined to wait.

Fortune Favors the Bold.

Darn, Chef, isn't this the most upbeat post you've ever had in reference to Jetblue! What did you do, find yourself a girlfriend or something?

 

[jbucpt]

Not written for myself... just the guys who want to come here.

such a hypocrite..........you will not take your recall back to your "beloved ALPA carrier", but will stay at jetblue and bad mouth the company. interesting........

like i previously posted, we hired alot of great furloughed guys who will be missed. but the idiots we want to leave, wont.

 

[tailhookah]

Jetblue is a good place to work. I am going to give up my number at NWA to stay and don't have any heartbreak about doing it. Remember we are only 7 years old and in that time have come a long way since bus ca's were making 80 an hour. Now our pay and benefits are middle of the pack of the comparable majors (320/190 comparable aircraft rates). So many guys ask questions on this board when you should be looking at the factual research... go to airlinepilotcentral.com and look at the math. These are the facts. Medical anywhere sucks right now. Gone are the days of free medical. Get over it and stop bashing B6 for having crappy medical. So does NWA and UA... If you were to go to CAL or NWA or UA you'd be looking at identical payscales on the 320 as an FO for the first 4 yrs or so on the 320. Our retirement is the same... at 7 it's an industry standard pay package. I'd bet... no guarantee you that at 20, SWA had an industry sub-standard pay package... I remember in the mid 90's that SWA was the land of misfit toys. No one went there unless they couldn't get hired at a major... hell, in 2000 I never even thought about it. Never even applied. Now by default they are the highest paid for the same equipment. Keep falsely attacking B6. Until you look at the facts you'll continue to look foolish... B6 is a great place to work... I've been there less than 2.5 yrs and can hold 320CA and am a CA on the 190. At 80 hrs I'm making about 90/hr. Still not where the 190CA rates should be but the 2 yr deal I signed up for got over a 13% raise this yr. So say what you guys want, but if you want the cold hard facts then PM me and I'll give you the truth. I don't really write here much anymore b/c the dorks will pick this apart w/ in a few pages and it'll turn into a juvenile bashfest.... PM me and I'll answer your questions truthfully and honestly.

Tail

ps-sure we have issues, but at least our management tells us the truth and quickly addresses issues as best as they can. Our CEO isn't cutting pay and then taking sick bonuses... our leadership leads by example. They aren't perfect but who is???????

 

[ualdriver]

"Gone are the days of free medical. Get over it and stop bashing B6 for having crappy medical. So does NWA and UA... "

We have a lot of crap at UA, but actually, you can have free medical at UAL (BCBS IL HMO). And it is very good. With two little kids we "test" it frequently and it costs me $0 per month.

Carry on with the JetBlue bashing........