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[rajflyboy]

How many pilots do you guys have at JB?

730?

 

[usav8r]

How many pilots do you guys have at JB?

730?

2100 and rising

 

[BeachBummer]

730+/- slightly over 1/3 of us, are the one's involved with a suit against the company for pay violations.

 

[Splert]

Industry average wages? What do our 190 pilots make-- um, industry leading wages..

E190 crews make peer set industry average wages for the category of aircraft the company agreed the E190 fits into.

That is how SWA with only 737 can be used to compare the A320 rates.

I know you only want to compare E190 to E190. If that is your logic then following your logic would mean only comparing A320 to A320 and leaving out DAL (pre-NWA merger), SWA and Alaska 737 rates and averaging the A320 rates of only UAL, Airwarys and AWA.

If PCRB, CBC and company used your logic for both the E190 and A320 then JetBlue A320 rates are industry leading too.

JetBlue agreed with the PCRB and the CBC that the
E190 is a Category 1 Aircraft
A320 is a Category 2 Aircraft for the purposes of peer averaging rates.

We are paid peer average for both Category 1 and 2 aircraft.

Do you need a link to both reports?

 

[aewanabe]

Blue Bayou uses only the facts that are convenient to him. For example, the 190 as a group 1 aircraft is lumped in with the 717 and DC9, which are flown by Hawaiian, Airtran, and Delta, respectively. The current book and/or TA'd rates for those jets are all above the 190, even though the 190 has greater range and a greater MTOW than either of those jets.

Are we the highest paid 190 drivers? Yep. Does the jet operate in a special mission vacuum that dictates only regional compensation applies? Only in the wet-dreams of management and their lackeys.

 

[dicko]

Blue Bayou uses only the facts that are convenient to him. For example, the 190 as a group 1 aircraft is lumped in with the 717 and DC9, which are flown by Hawaiian, Airtran, and Delta, respectively. The current book and/or TA'd rates for those jets are all above the 190, even though the 190 has greater range and a greater MTOW than either of those jets.

Are we the highest paid 190 drivers? Yep. Does the jet operate in a special mission vacuum that dictates only regional compensation applies? Only in the wet-dreams of management and their lackeys.

The E190 has a MTOW greater than 117,000 lb (717) ?

 

[aewanabe]

I was told the 717 was 113.5k. The E190 AR version we fly is 114.5k, so not quite. Sorry for the bad info.

 

[dicko]

I was told the 717 was 113.5k. The E190 AR version we fly is 114.5k, so not quite. Sorry for the bad info.

No worries. The only reason I could even remember the 1(17),000 lb number was the fact it matches the last two in 7(17).

I regularly use my toes to remember limitations :cartman:

 

[rajflyboy]

2100 Pilots. Thats amazing. You guys have really grown in the last 10 years. I hope the pilot group can get at least industry standard wages and benefits.

I think you have a great product and if you can get the pay and all straight you definately have a place you can retire.

Obviously JB has some money. Just look at the JFK terminal.

Where are the bases? JFK, Longbeach, Lauderdale?

 

[aewanabe]

All those, plus BOS, MCO. BOS is or will shortly be the biggest 190 base.

 

[B6Busdriver]

730+/- slightly over 1/3 of us, are the one's involved with a suit against the company for pay violations.

For the record, is NOT a suit. The pilots involved are simply trying to use a dispute resolution process as set up by the company. The company is making every attempt to make the process as difficult as possible. So far they have been spanked but have once again tried to stop the process. The company wants nothing to do with 700+ pilots working together through an attorney.
The true colors of JetBlue are being shone for sure.

 

[rajflyboy]

All those, plus BOS, MCO. BOS is or will shortly be the biggest 190 base.

At least you have more choices than JFK

 

[clr4theapch]

S of today, Jet Blue is a LCC/ National Airline section thread... you all have your chance to address this subject right now by answering the sticky threads on the major/ mainline section.. but for now this move gets moved..

clr4...mod

 

[ArmadilloJackal]

clr4theapch. Why don't you define the differences for us please. I will happily argue each one of your points or cede them to you.

 

[clr4theapch]

This is the way it has been for years.. HOWEVER.. if you do as I asked above and go to the Majors section.. you will find our sticky threads that ask for your input on this matter as we look for ways to improve flight Info.. This matter is one of those questions..

I don't have an arguement for you.. BUt with 37 posts to your credit, you might want to take a lighter approach if you want to make a meaningful suggestion they we will really consider..