Is Expressjet The Best???

[Capt.PoopyPants]

I'll make over 20 this year!!!

Guess what, so will I. Let me guess, you think I make $19 hr because you read it on Flightinfo. It's just not true. The only flight crewmember making less that 20 grand is the one serving drinks in the back.

Anyways, to be excited about making over 20 a year is pitifull. It just shows you're ignorance. You are a guy that would be happy at any job they would let you fly a jet. You bash others with nothing to back it up with.

 

[Flechas]

We already do, it's called equal oportunity employment.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

Guess what, so will I. Let me guess, you think I make $19 hr because you read it on Flightinfo. It's just not true. The only flight crewmember making less that 20 grand is the one serving drinks in the back.

Anyways, to be excited about making over 20 a year is pitifull. It just shows you're ignorance. You are a guy that would be happy at any job they would let you fly a jet. You bash others with nothing to back it up with.

Turn on your sarcasm detector...

 

[Flechas]

Guess what, so will I. Let me guess, you think I make $19 hr because you read it on Flightinfo. It's just not true. The only flight crewmember making less that 20 grand is the one serving drinks in the back.

Anyways, to be excited about making over 20 a year is pitifull. It just shows you're ignorance. You are a guy that would be happy at any job they would let you fly a jet. You bash others with nothing to back it up with.

Actually I was being sarcastic about that, don't know yet how much I'll make, and if I go over 20 it's because I'm getting 100hrs+ a month on credit.

By the way, this time you could've used "your ignorance" You're ignorance stands for "You are ignorance"

 

[Capt.PoopyPants]

By the way, this time you could've used "your ignorance" You're ignorance stands for "You are ignorance"

I guess you can't see Sarcasm either.

 

[Flechas]

Good comeback, but that was a pretty long shot there.

 

[Superpilot92]

Hey PoopIE head, who do you work for? Just curious what your say is in this?

 

[Capt.PoopyPants]

Hey PoopIE head, who do you work for? Just curious what your say is in this?

It's not obvious? I work for NASA, I just like defending CHQ from the tyranny of the uninformed. At least tonight I do.

And Flechas you call five posts later a long shot?

 

[Flechas]

I call a long shot not having good grammar knowledge.

You are getting to upset about all this stuff, take it a little bit lighter and you will see how it al seems to be really funny.

I correct grammar because a few people here get really into it, I really don't give a sh*t.

 

[ATRCA]

XJet (CoEx) sucked bad when I was there........3+ years ago! I heard things have improved, but it depends on what your persepctive. For most of the 800 hour pilots recently hired , I'm sure it's peachy-keen compared to instructing!

800 hr new hire. Get real, they do exist but they are the exception by far. In the last month every single FO I flew with was from another 121 carrier (Indy, Colgan, Peidmont) and I flew with 1 mil. guy (A-10). I have yet to fly with someone who wasn't more than capable of handling all that was presented to us.

Our hiring practices differ little from those of the other carriers in our peer group and our safety record (for our size and scope) is well within acceptable margins.

As you were........

 

[Capt.PoopyPants]

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I correct grammar because a few people here get really into it, I really don't give a sh*t.

Now that is what I call a long shot. How many posts do you have? How much of you're day is spent here? It seems to be the only thing you give a sh*t about.

Can you see something wrong with my grammer? It's there. Question is, can the grammer Nazi find it?

 

[Superpilot92]

This is your quote that made me ask the question,

"The guys at CHQ know this and will address it in the next contract. How are Expressjets 170/700 rates? "

We know this would have worked better in that sentence then. Plus your profile shows nothing bigger than a BE-58 or the DA20. So i thought i would ask Poopie Head! I have no beef with Chitaco. I personally would want to get paid better if i was flying a bigger airplane than i am in now. So if we were to ever get a bigger aircraft type i promise you our pilot group would fight for better pay. In fact we deserve more for the job we do now.

CYA

 

[Flechas]

Yeah but have you read my posts? They are for the most part meaningless, except for a few when I try to give my opinion in a training issue.

I spend most of my time working,and I don't come here when I'm working, only on my days off.

 

[Capt.PoopyPants]

This is your quote that made me ask the question,

"The guys at CHQ know this and will address it in the next contract. How are Expressjets 170/700 rates? "

We know this would have worked better in that sentence then. Plus your profile shows nothing bigger than a BE-58 or the DA20. So i thought i would ask Poopie Head! I have no beef with Chitaco. I personally would want to get paid better if i was flying a bigger airplane than i am in now. So if we were to ever get a bigger aircraft type i promise you our pilot group would fight for better pay. In fact we deserve more for the job we do now.

CYA

The point I was making was that when those rates were created, those aircraft didn't exist. There were more pressing issues at the time. Mainly just trying to improve work rules and keep the company from trying to create an alter ego for larger a/c if they came. CHQpilots didn't want to end up in the situation that Transtates is in right now.

There was a contract with better payrates offered, but it was voted down because it didn't guarantee all flying under Republic by the CHQ pilots group. Believe me, the guys at CHQ know the payrates could be better on the 170's. Most people want to see better rates ont he next contract and that will be the focus.

As far as the 170 FO payrate, It's crap. The way the job is sold here is simple. The FO payrates are not good, but you won't be an FO for long. I think that argument sucks, but for the timebeing it's holding up.

As far as expressjet I don't know what you guys would do. The simple truth is that you haven't been put in that situation. Consider yourself lucky. If in 2007 CAL starts shopping around you'll see what it's like. CHQ won't be going after anymore 145 flying according to our CEO. I don't know if it's true, but we're parking 5 pretty soon.

And don't call me poopyhead, It's Capt.Poopypants or Mr. Poopypants. Only my friends call me Poopyhead.

 

[MVSW]

800 hr new hire. Get real, they do exist but they are the exception by far. In the last month every single FO I flew with was from another 121 carrier (Indy, Colgan, Peidmont) and I flew with 1 mil. guy (A-10). I have yet to fly with someone who wasn't more than capable of handling all that was presented to us.

Our hiring practices differ little from those of the other carriers in our peer group and our safety record (for our size and scope) is well within acceptable margins.

As you were........

I have a friend at XJET that is a CA and he told me that you guys have been taking on 600-800TT guys at every interview.

 

[Flechas]

I have a friend at XJET that is a CA and he told me that you guys have been taking on 600-800TT guys at every interview.

Is he doing interviews? If not whatever he tells you is just rumors, the only 600 hr piots hired were hired last year around Sep-Oct, after that they want 121, 135, or jet experience.

 

[ED GRIMLEY]

I call a long shot not having good grammar knowledge.

You are getting to upset about all this stuff, take it a little bit lighter and you will see how it al seems to be really funny.

I correct grammar because a few people here get really into it, I really don't give a sh*t.

Uh oh the Grammar Gestapo strikes again. When will it end. Moderators can we please have a spell check tool in order to silence these douche bags. And if your feeling really generous a grammar tool would pry help as well. Thanks.

-EG

 

[Flechas]

ED, like I said before, it's all sarcasm, it's just part of the fun.
If you feel the need to spellcheck your posts, type them on Word and then use the Copy?Paste function. Works pretty well.

 

[ED GRIMLEY]

ED, like I said before, it's all sarcasm, it's just part of the fun.
If you feel the need to spellcheck your posts, type them on Word and then use the Copy?Paste function. Works pretty well.

I don't care about how people spell. It is just nonsense to call people out on that. Have take on something and don't suck. If you have nothing besides grammar then please don't speak. Thanks. Have a good one.

Thanks for the vine thanks for the time. I am out.

 

[Flechas]

Thanks for playing, come back and see us!!

 

[MVSW]

Is he doing interviews? If not whatever he tells you is just rumors, the only 600 hr piots hired were hired last year around Sep-Oct, after that they want 121, 135, or jet experience.

Well I guess that the FO's are just kidding with him when they tell him how much time they had when they got on!!

 

[Flechas]

Well I guess that the FO's are just kidding with him when they tell him how much time they had when they got on!!

When they got on, that's right then, must have been sep-oct.

 

[Superpilot92]

Ok i will let off on the Poopyhead calling. Can i be your friend so i can call you that though?

And for the 600 hour newbies, Your friend might be right about some guys with 600 hours or so. the deal is that most of those guys were previous interns or internal applicants.

I do know some hiring of All ATP guys and gals was done with 600 hours or so. However most of the new hires coming in are at least 1000 TT and 200 multi. The mins are low but pretty much nobody is getting on like that anymore with out being internal. I know a bunch of guys with over 1200tt that arent getting interviews because they dont have 200 multi. That is the new numbers to even qualify for an interview from what i have heard. Right now people getting on are prior 121, 135 or 91 guys and gals with turbine time. Take it for what its worth because i really dont care if you believe me or not but thats how it is. NOW GOOD DAY SIR.

 

[ATRCA]

Well I guess that the FO's are just kidding with him when they tell him how much time they had when they got on!!

I really don't care what your friend tells you. All I know is what I have seen over the past 6 or 7 months that I've been flying with new hires and I can tell you that the low time guys are by far the exception.

Lets just say however that every new hire we have taken has been a 600hr guy. What would that mean? How has it negatively impacted our operation? What has it done to our safety record?

The fact of the matter is nothing. Usually the guys who make the most noise about low time hires were not hired themselves for some reason, had more than the minimums and as a result felt entitled to a job they did not receive. Not saying that's you, but I have seen that on plenty of occasions.

 

[erj-145mech]

We have our own state of the art training facility with our own sims, our own instructors training materials etc. that most airlines have to pay companies like simuflite or flight safety to do for them.

In addition to these things we print all of our publications, manuals , AOM/CFM, QRH, memos, safety briefing cards every last detail comes straight from our own print shop. If its on paper we printed it.

Continental Airlines owns the training center and everything inside of it. CO leases the facility and furnishings back to ExpressJet. Its even behind the CO training facility and shares the parking lot. If you need a replacement employee badge, where do you go, to the Continental badging office? Continental Airlines even owns the www.expressjet.com website.

All of the printing is done at the CO printshop next to the CO company store off of the beltway and toll road in north Houston.

Continental is the primary lessor on the aircraft, the ground equipment, the out stations and maintenance hangars.

The only thing that ExpressJet owns is its name, and the contracts from its employee groups.

ExpressJets sole function is to dispatch flights on time. Continental says where to and when.

Continental has a finger in every facet of ExpressJets daily operations. CO wants to keep it that way, so I don't see them relinquishing that to another carrier.

 

[Spinplate]

Thank you Obi Wan!

 

[CLECA]

Continental Airlines owns the training center and everything inside of it. CO leases the facility and furnishings back to ExpressJet. Its even behind the CO training facility and shares the parking lot. If you need a replacement employee badge, where do you go, to the Continental badging office? Continental Airlines even owns the www.expressjet.com website.

All of the printing is done at the CO printshop next to the CO company store off of the beltway and toll road in north Houston.

Continental is the primary lessor on the aircraft, the ground equipment, the out stations and maintenance hangars.

The only thing that ExpressJet owns is its name, and the contracts from its employee groups.



ExpressJets sole function is to dispatch flights on time. Continental says where to and when.

Continental has a finger in every facet of ExpressJets daily operations. CO wants to keep it that way, so I don't see them relinquishing that to another carrier.

I said we "have" these things, I don't remember syaing anything about ownership. These are still facets of the operation that we don't pay a PREMIUM price on and that was the point.




On a side note:

This post is so far off the original idea that its ridiculous. They guy asked if it is a good company. We gave our opinions on whether or not it is. I really think this thread has outlived its useful life. It turned into a pissing contest about three or four pages ago. May it rest in peace.

 

[Nova]

Continental Airlines owns the training center and everything inside of it. CO leases the facility and furnishings back to ExpressJet. Its even behind the CO training facility and shares the parking lot. If you need a replacement employee badge, where do you go, to the Continental badging office? Continental Airlines even owns the www.expressjet.com website.

All of the printing is done at the CO printshop next to the CO company store off of the beltway and toll road in north Houston.

Continental is the primary lessor on the aircraft, the ground equipment, the out stations and maintenance hangars.

The only thing that ExpressJet owns is its name, and the contracts from its employee groups.

ExpressJets sole function is to dispatch flights on time. Continental says where to and when.

Continental has a finger in every facet of ExpressJets daily operations. CO wants to keep it that way, so I don't see them relinquishing that to another carrier.

What do we walk away with when we pay off our debt to CO? I find it hard to believe that pay ?00 Million to CO and walk away with nothing. Did we pay all that money just for the ExpressJet name? I doubt that.

 

[MVSW]

I really don't care what your friend tells you. All I know is what I have seen over the past 6 or 7 months that I've been flying with new hires and I can tell you that the low time guys are by far the exception.

Lets just say however that every new hire we have taken has been a 600hr guy. What would that mean? How has it negatively impacted our operation? What has it done to our safety record?

The fact of the matter is nothing. Usually the guys who make the most noise about low time hires were not hired themselves for some reason, had more than the minimums and as a result felt entitled to a job they did not receive. Not saying that's you, but I have seen that on plenty of occasions.

No its not me. I was just making a point that XJet and the company that I work for both do this. I am making noise b/c the guys that we hire with that kind of time are from Gulfstream and ALLATPS for XJet. It just makes me mad that I had to work my tail off to get a job and these guys go and PFT and get a job.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

Most importantly ExpressJet has some great people to work with. Every company out there has some sour ones to go with the good ones as well, but that's just life.