Is COEX going on strike?

[Heavy Set]

Beyond the pay issue, will Coex order EMB-170/190s in the future? Any predictions about scope and whether this could happen?

 

[nimtz]

Beyond the pay issue, will Coex order EMB-170/190s in the future? Any predictions about scope and whether this could happen?

I hear the rumor every week that 'order is in as soon as contract done.' I don't believe it for a second. First CAL has to get scope relief from mainline, which I fear they will since alot of mainline guys are scared silly about their retirement and the fact that everyone else has 70+ seaters at their respective regionals. Next most likely enters a given regional with a pilot group that is willing to fly the 70 seaters for less then what we hope to get for the 50 seaters. Wonder who that might be? On an 'unrelated' note I heard a Skywest captain the other day talking about how he totally sure come 2007 Skywest will get a big chunk of CAL flying. How wonderful our career earnings are looking as of late...

 

[Lear70]

Rumor has it that you guys are headed back to the mediation table finally... after relaxing some of your demands to the NMB...?

Word had it that you had been "put on ice" by the NMB because they didn't agree with you guys asking for CMR rates or anything near it, and that you had to back off a little to be allowed to mediate again.

Problem with wanting to go on strike is that the NMB has to let someone do that: "being released into self-help". I agree that the fine folks at XJet should be allowed to determine their own fate but wonder what the NMB will and won't allow (I also agree that the NMB shouldn't have as much say as they do in what is "fair" for the XJet crews to demand, but that's an entirely different story).

Just trying to get a grasp on what the current situation is in relation to the NMB position over there. Good luck!

 

[Nova]

Rumor has it that you guys are headed back to the mediation table finally... after relaxing some of your demands to the NMB...?

We went back to the table last week but I don't believe that occurred because of relaxed demands. Those several days didn't go well so we're back to picketing.

 

[flap operator]

Carefull Coex boys and girls... when Scope and pay are the top priorities, your negotiators will certainly cram scope down your throat and "sell" you the benefits to this. Don't let it happen like it happened at XJ! How sharp is the whipsaw at Coex? If it isn't as sharp as a Freedom or a Mesaba/Pinnacle/other feeder/NWA whipsaw then it may not be THAT important. Also remember... if you push for strong scope, don't complain about the CO boys and girls following suit and scoping you out of 70 seat jets for example. It's a 2 way street.


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[Air Biscuit]

if you push for strong scope, don't complain about the CO boys and girls following suit and scoping you out of 70 seat jets for example. It's a 2 way street.

I don't think that we will have to worry about that spineless group of pilots. The only things those scabs care about is holding onto their retirement. Right now there to scared to even negotiate with management. They will continue to have their flying eroded. Instead of trying to embrace us into one list they want us completely out of their union. My feeling is that we should go for the pay and alot of it. It will only benefit us long term. XJT is making money hand over fist. If mainline won't renew in 2007 then guess what. How are they going to feel about a low cost carrier in all 3 of their hubs?

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

Good luck fellas. You have an awfully tough job trying to raise the bar, when places like Mesa and even jetBlue race to lower it. I fear that you won't be released to self-help for a very long time. Rest assured, that if/when you do, the pilots of Comair have our "battle stars" all shined up to walk with you. You will find a tremondous amount of support from places like United, Northwest, FedEx and UPS.

Good luck.

 

[mmmdonut]

On an 'unrelated' note I heard a Skywest captain the other day talking about how he totally sure come 2007 Skywest will get a big chunk of CAL flying.

Lots of optimism there at Skywest.... lol

 

[paid4training]

Lots of optimism there at Skywest.... lol

Lowest price wins. Skyworst undercuts you by 100 bucks a trip...guess who isn't flying the route?!!! Cal is pretty much a bastard with no loyality for a company they "spun off". CAl will cut your throat if it means o'l Gordo can get a certificate or more money added to his bonus to pay all the FA's he get's knocked up!!!! XJT needs to focused on staying profitable and doing what they do best...The flight manuels are hot comodity with other small company's. There needs to be fair compensation for services while putting money into the investors pockets(including Gordo's). I believe management is trying to expand in anticipation for reduced flying from one of it's only customers. I heard a rumor that a mini-hub at LAX was in the works. I for one will believe it when I see it...

 

[michael707767]

COEX will never get Comair rates. Look at the rates they have now. That would be too large of a jump for management to sign off on. Strike away guies. See where that gets ya.

Comair will not get Comair rates. When their current contract is up of for renegotiation, their rates will go down.

 

[JI Gone OH]

When you spin us off maybe. Otherwise doubt it.

 

[Captain X]

Word had it that you had been "put on ice" by the NMB because they didn't agree with you guys asking for CMR rates or anything near it,

Actually, none of our proposals have even gotten close to Comair rates.....in fact our last proposal was around Comair +10%.

 

[contract2002]

Screw The Negotiating Committee, My Wife Speaks For Me!

 

[Air Biscuit]

Screw The Negotiating Committee, My Wife Speaks For Me!

I feel your pain.

 

[Caveman]

"Comair will not get Comair rates. When their current contract is up of for renegotiation, their rates will go down."

Never gonna happen. No way, no how. A BK judge may force it on us but there is no chance that this pilot group would EVER agree to concessions.