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[Some guy]

So has the reorganization been resolved/completed? All jobs reassigned? Was yesterday it for the lay-off? I don't know. I guess we'll all find out together. Best wishes to all of the NJ employees/families adversely affected. NJW

No, but it's in work. Almost 50% of the MCC was let go. I don't know why we were hit so hard. 90% of the maintenance support in the field is gone. Reliability engineering is gone too. None of the management is gone. I presume when the reorganization is done, round 2 will take care of that.

SG

 

[netjetwife]

SG, that is not what I was expecting by way of a reorganization in CMH. :erm: I was hopeful the new CEO would begin by trimming excess VPs, (a logical starting place) but as you say, maybe that group will be next. Was it a case of getting blind-sided, or did the MCC/maintenance group sense it was coming? Tough either way...

To add to my frac education, MCC stands for...?

 

[wacoflyr]

Major Cause of Confusion? We have departments like that.

 

[RNObased]

SG, that is not what I was expecting by way of a reorganization in CMH. :erm: I was hopeful the new CEO would begin by trimming excess VPs, (a logical starting place) but as you say, maybe that group will be next. Was it a case of getting blind-sided, or did the MCC/maintenance group sense it was coming? Tough either way...

Yeah, I was hoping for that also. Wacking the folks that do the work isn't what I was hoping for. I thought maybe that they, would get rid of the VP of Paper Towels?? I'm still hopeful that this guy will do something that makes more sense, time will tell.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

I thought maybe that they, would get rid of the VP of Paper Towels??

Like two previous members of "Strong Union"? :erm: Who don't do sh*t?

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Was yesterday it for the lay-offs?

Does the B-52 carry just one bomb?

 

[jpeace02]

Folks if you have choosen to put your head in the sand and believe that the VM's would save jobs then your are mistaken. This has been along time coming, unfortunately it will affect all NJ employees and their families, not just pilots. I believe when the time comes the pilots are going to take a big hit. I hope that everyone that had there job saved by the VM over the last few months has taken this time to work on a plan "B".

Don't mean to sound like a jerk here but I'm sick of hearing this on both are boards and FI. I've been applying for flying and non-flying jobs for a year now, ever since the collapse. I have gotten 0 responses. Yes, I've been saving money but plan "B" is a joke right now. It's frustrating as hell there just aren't a lot of jobs out there.

 

[netjetwife]

Wolf, to clarify, I was wondering if there will be other (non-pilot) staff reductions in CMH. It's a given that junior NJA/I pilots are understandably worried. Case in point, JP02's post.

Waco, I'm pretty sure that the "M" stands for maintenance. However, there's obviously no shortage of confusion -- so you did nail that.

RNO, I have my fingers crossed, also. There's a lot at stake and many are watching to see how the reorganization goes.

JPeace02, I think you're getting a lot of well-intentioned advice because NJ folks do care but just don't have any other answers to offer. So here's my simple but heartfelt comment... I am sorry that your NJ career has hit a rough spot. Hopefully, the future will be brighter. Hang in there! NJW

 

[flagshipper]

Don't mean to sound like a jerk here but I'm sick of hearing this on both are boards and FI. I've been applying for flying and non-flying jobs for a year now, ever since the collapse. I have gotten 0 responses. Yes, I've been saving money but plan "B" is a joke right now. It's frustrating as hell there just aren't a lot of jobs out there.

I am with you. If I hear one more 10 year captain post that it will all be ok and I should have seen this coming and saved half my pay blah blah blah I will go postal (they aren't hiring either I checked). Lets face it. Unless you are furloughed or downgraded then it doesn't bother the pilot group at all except for a twinge of sympathy and then back to work. Heck some are even happy the VMs are going away so they don't have to feel guilty for coming off their reduced schedule. I have had no luck in the job hunt either. Most employers see my master's degree and my current salary and think I won't be around more than two weeks. They dont understand the way aviation works and that furloughs happen for years and not weeks. Wish I had taken the early out. I need a flux capacitor.

 

[RCR5]

Sorry to read this. Having been furloughed from Citation Shares, I know what you are going through prior to the furlough and afterwards. It sucks. I was lucky enough to find another job quickly and it was due to my military background.

To all my former and current military brothers and sisters, start looking NOW if you think you are going to be furloughed. Here are some options for you that pay very well but will require you to be deployed to places all over the world.

Also a couple sites that those pilots with no military background could find work at.

http://www.avengeinc.com/

http://www.l-3com.com/fi/

http://www.dynamicaviation.com/

http://www.flightlanddata.com/ (Buckeye Program)

http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/resources/job_applicants.html

The US Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan was looking for 1900 pilots and helicopter pilots here. GREAT site but you need a membership. http://www.climbto350.com/climbto35...Id=7146044453&&CFID=22176254&CFTOKEN=41427192

Good site to find government flying jobs for dual rated current and former military pilots as well as those with no military background. http://www.jsfirm.com/searchjobs.asp?companyid=2231

Good site to find government flying jobs mostly for current and former military pilots, but they do have jobs for those without a military background as well.
http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/search.aspx?sort=rv&vw=d&brd=3876&ss=0&FedEmp=N&FedPub=Y&q=Pilot

All these jobs pay very well. AFTER taxes you could take home between $5000 to $7000 every two weeks with most of these jobs.

They also provide flying opportunities in the states with some of these jobs.

Thoughts and prayers for all of you.