Interesting Blog on Netjets

[gunfyter]

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Have you seen this film?


First there is Spring ... then comes the summer ... but Fall follows and then Winter ...

But the Spring comes thereafter....


The industry is in the tank ... its been in the tank before. It will come out of the tank... again.

But until it does ... we will have to endure this negativity....

 

[B19 Flyer]

Wait a minute... there is a contract mandated a pilot to plane ratio ??

As long as the ratio of pilots to planes is contract compliant (an issue that surely only has direct bearing on NJ folks) it seems to me that the definition of excess is best left to NJ management.

Gret, this isn't the first time you have shown what some would describe as excessive curiosity in specific info regarding NJ. That indicates that you're not affiliated with the company and in turn begs the question....
Why do you want to know? :erm:

I have a question of my own. What is your connection to the fractional industry?

Wait a minute... there is a contract mandated a pilot to plane ratio ??

Really?

And.... what is YOUR connection to aviation?

 

[NJAowner]

Owner,
It looks like just that, a guess and a whacky one at that. So what jets are they going to sell off before they install the Wi-Fi, I'm dying to hear this theory/guess.

RNO -- I don't have the hard numbers and don't feel like looking through FAA databases tonight. But owners are told the mid size/large fleet will get wifi by the end of 2013. Let's just say like with anything else that it takes until 2014.

NJ jets are scheduled to be sold off the fleet at 10 years. Let's look at the number of G200, Falcons and GIV which are newer than 2004 (i.e., 2005 and later). I would guess that is 1/2 the fleet?? Are they going to install wifi and take a plane out of service for a while to install it if the plane will be sold within the year? I doubt it?

OK --just did a quick look on the faa.gov and numbers may be off. G200- 37 G200s -- 16 2004 and older, 19 2005 and newer; Falcon 2000 - 41 a/c; 31 2004 and older, 10 2005 and newer. Even if these numebrs aren't perfect are the proportions close?

 

[jppt2000]

NJW

A little paranoid aren't we?

You seem to believe you have all the answers and that life will go on just peachy because that is the way it is suppose to be.

Open you mind and hear what is going on all around you. The industry is in the tank and the company is as well. Your continuous pretentious comments of your "blind faith" in a document only limits your acquisition of knowledge that will help you deal with more difficult times ahead.

We are not needed if we don't have customers and too many of them have headed out the door. Doesn't matter what a piece of paper says, without somebody paying the bills, we get nothing and need to move on.

"We",

 

[jppt2000]

Being There - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Have you seen this film?


First there is Spring ... then comes the summer ... but Fall follows and then Winter ...

But the Spring comes thereafter....


The industry is in the tank ... its been in the tank before. It will come out of the tank... again.

But until it does ... we will have to endure this negativity....

Negativity, and haters' having fun.

 

[netjetwife]

NJW

A little paranoid aren't we? Many favor discretion. You seem to believe you have all the answers and that life will go on just peachy because that is the way it is suppose to be. Hardly... Life is full of difficulties; few families go untouched by sickness and/or death. Just another reason for pilots to have a voice in their career--a part of life they can have some control over.

... Your continuous pretentious comments of your "blind faith" in a document only limits your acquisition of knowledge that will help you deal with more difficult times ahead. A legally guaranteed professional compensation package helps families weather life's storms and save for rainy days ahead. But it's not just the document, it's also the commitment behind it. The NJ pilots are the Union. They and their families have stood together thru tough times already and their contract proves they are better off for doing so. Knowledge gained from past difficulties can help you deal with future ones.

We are not needed if we don't have customers and too many of them have headed out the door. Cutting the budget is common in hard times so it's not surprising that some NJ owners have had to leave or downsize their share. Doesn't matter what a piece of paper says, without somebody paying the bills, we get nothing and need to move on.

Stating "we", means you are employed at NJ?

You're unusually pessimistic if so .... :erm: DS has made progress in turning things around. Consolidation is on track and that will $ave even more. NJASAP leaders recently met w/upper management and will provide an update in Friday's 411.

Communication is enhanced by knowing fellow posters' connection to the industry. Knowing the baseline (or lack thereof) makes it easier to understand where a person is coming from. I chose my FI name to make my own connection to the frac community (our family's income and schedule rely on the NJ contract) clear to all FI members. Many here openly discuss their tie to the industry because it establishes credibility and helps avoid confusion.

For example .... Some FI members had forgotten that early on in his posting here B19 volunteered that he is employed at Avantair and later clarified that he is no longer flying, but is in management instead. That info helps readers put his anti-union posts in perspective. But some have better memories than others, and some missed those posts....so confusion over his connection to the industry resurfaces periodically. That wouldn't happen if he had gone with Avantairmanager instead.