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NJAowner said:
NJ already announced wi-fi on select a/c so what is your new technological news?
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Well, let's stick with this for a second.

Why would NJ spend one dime on anything like WiFi if the goal was to slash and burn?

WiFi itself is a significant expense, and a necessary one to be competitive as an air carrier of any type.

It's far from free to install and maintain though...
 
FLYLOW22 said:
I hear all the haters out there.

I hear them loud and clear and while I have not an single ounce of optimism left in me regarding aviation I do see very interesting, selective and strategic business announcements being made regarding the services that NetJets will soon be providing onboard QS tails (new technology), certain real estate projects being given the green light that have been shelved for some time, etc.

These are not decisions made by a corporate team looking to simply package and process to "tie off".

I guess the upcoming aircraft order announcement won't be proof enough for the critics either... they'll not only need the aircraft in service but they'll need to see a few quarters of profits as well.

That's fine.

To each their own...
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I'll pass on the big gulp of Bridgeway Kool-Aid until I'm sitting in company initial.

Again.
 
Wy would NJ add it -- FLOPs, Flex, CitationAir and XOJet have been adding it to various jets (or adding it to new purchases) for a while. One must keep up with the Jones'. Let' see how long it takes to actually add it to the most of the fleet. My guess is that 1/2 the jets they plan to put it on will be sold off before installation. When you are no longer the industry leader you at least have to be the last one to catch up. Impression is much more important than fact.
 
NJAowner said:
Wy would NJ add it -- FLOPs, Flex, CitationAir and XOJet have been adding it to various jets (or adding it to new purchases) for a while. One must keep up with the Jones'. Let' see how long it takes to actually add it to the most of the fleet. My guess is that 1/2 the jets they plan to put it on will be sold off before installation. When you are no longer the industry leader you at least have to be the last one to catch up. Impression is much more important than fact.
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flylow is quickly running out of material. she's hoping her ride lasts through bj f/o. :)
 
Let's just say it will be easier to read the manuals if you speak Portuguese...
 
450, 500? GD might not be too happy :)
 
gutshotdraw said:
Let's just say it will be easier to read the manuals if you speak Portuguese...
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First I've heard of this rumor anywhere. I knew they looked at them....will believe it when I see them in QS numbers on the ramp somewhere. Hopefully its more than a rumor. Have any numbers been thrown out there by the Company or is this just another pilot-generated BS rumor?
 
The plane was on the ramp....it must be a signed deal:rolleyes:

I think I would wait until it's in QS numbers before I start brushing up on any language.
 
NJAowner said:
Wy would NJ add it -- FLOPs, Flex, CitationAir and XOJet have been adding it to various jets (or adding it to new purchases) for a while. One must keep up with the Jones'. Let' see how long it takes to actually add it to the most of the fleet. My guess is that 1/2 the jets they plan to put it on will be sold off before installation. When you are no longer the industry leader you at least have to be the last one to catch up. Impression is much more important than fact.
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Owner,
It looks like just that, a guess and a whacky one at that. So what jets are they going to sell off before they install the Wi-Fi, I'm dying to hear this theory/guess.
 
RNObased said:
Owner,
It looks like just that, a guess and a whacky one at that. So what jets are they going to sell off before they install the Wi-Fi, I'm dying to hear this theory/guess.
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This is a very good question and there haven't been many thoughts put forward lately on the matter.

How many excess aircraft are there in the fleet? 50, 100, 150, 200?
 
As long as the ratio of pilots to planes is contract compliant (an issue that surely only has direct bearing on NJ folks) it seems to me that the definition of excess is best left to NJ management.

Gret, this isn't the first time you have shown what some would describe as excessive curiosity in specific info regarding NJ. That indicates that you're not affiliated with the company and in turn begs the question....
Why do you want to know? :erm:

I have a question of my own. What is your connection to the fractional industry?
 
NJW

A little paranoid aren't we?

You seem to believe you have all the answers and that life will go on just peachy because that is the way it is suppose to be.

Open you mind and hear what is going on all around you. The industry is in the tank and the company is as well. Your continuous pretentious comments of your "blind faith" in a document only limits your acquisition of knowledge that will help you deal with more difficult times ahead.

We are not needed if we don't have customers and too many of them have headed out the door. Doesn't matter what a piece of paper says, without somebody paying the bills, we get nothing and need to move on.
 
Wait a minute... there is a contract mandated a pilot to plane ratio ??

netjetwife said:
As long as the ratio of pilots to planes is contract compliant (an issue that surely only has direct bearing on NJ folks) it seems to me that the definition of excess is best left to NJ management.

Gret, this isn't the first time you have shown what some would describe as excessive curiosity in specific info regarding NJ. That indicates that you're not affiliated with the company and in turn begs the question....
Why do you want to know? :erm:

I have a question of my own. What is your connection to the fractional industry?
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Wait a minute... there is a contract mandated a pilot to plane ratio ??

Really?

And.... what is YOUR connection to aviation?
 
Owner,
It looks like just that, a guess and a whacky one at that. So what jets are they going to sell off before they install the Wi-Fi, I'm dying to hear this theory/guess.

RNO -- I don't have the hard numbers and don't feel like looking through FAA databases tonight. But owners are told the mid size/large fleet will get wifi by the end of 2013. Let's just say like with anything else that it takes until 2014.

NJ jets are scheduled to be sold off the fleet at 10 years. Let's look at the number of G200, Falcons and GIV which are newer than 2004 (i.e., 2005 and later). I would guess that is 1/2 the fleet?? Are they going to install wifi and take a plane out of service for a while to install it if the plane will be sold within the year? I doubt it?

OK --just did a quick look on the faa.gov and numbers may be off. G200- 37 G200s -- 16 2004 and older, 19 2005 and newer; Falcon 2000 - 41 a/c; 31 2004 and older, 10 2005 and newer. Even if these numebrs aren't perfect are the proportions close?
 
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gret said:
NJW

A little paranoid aren't we?

You seem to believe you have all the answers and that life will go on just peachy because that is the way it is suppose to be.

Open you mind and hear what is going on all around you. The industry is in the tank and the company is as well. Your continuous pretentious comments of your "blind faith" in a document only limits your acquisition of knowledge that will help you deal with more difficult times ahead.

We are not needed if we don't have customers and too many of them have headed out the door. Doesn't matter what a piece of paper says, without somebody paying the bills, we get nothing and need to move on.
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"We", :rolleyes:
 
gunfyter said:
Being There - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Have you seen this film?


First there is Spring ... then comes the summer ... but Fall follows and then Winter ...

But the Spring comes thereafter....


The industry is in the tank ... its been in the tank before. It will come out of the tank... again.

But until it does ... we will have to endure this negativity....
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Negativity, and haters' having fun.
 

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