Industry Sellouts flying Allegiant Metal while they're in Negotiations?

[BuckMurdock1]

A procedure is now in place that we will have pictures of these pilots in our cockpits that will be sent to the Teamsters, ALPA, and their CP.

Glad to hear this procedure is in place. Let's face it- there are many amongst us (not just in our industry, but in life generally) who don't think twice about how their immediate financial gain might negatively effect others...until it ends up biting them in the ass. If the CP notification is true..they could likely be fired by their airline if they didn't get their CPs approval first (and then claim the block hours against commercial flying FAR limits).

 

[Chuck Steak]

In reality, How is this really any different than Maury outsourcing all of Allegiant's scheduled flying? :smash:

 

[Blue Dude]

There are a few non seniority list pilots that JetBlue hires to move planes around on some part 91 legs. Maybe it's the same guys. We need names though. If they are JetBlue line pilots they could easily be in violation of company policy and FAR 117.

Even if it's legal it's a pretty douchy thing to do.

 

[trip]

Lets hope they didn't jumpseat around to do it.

 

[Limeyflyer]

Wow, it better not be some of our jetblue line pilots. Hopefully we can be done with the C91 pilots soon at B6.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Wow, it better not be some of our jetblue line pilots. Hopefully we can be done with the C91 pilots soon at B6.

What are C91 pilots?

 

[Limeyflyer]

What Blue Dude said above.

 

[clickclickboom]

Let me add some clarity here.

Jetblue markets to retired usairways and retired jetblue pilots that are typed and current. They pay a paltry $500 a day to move 170k lb airplanes empty around our system and to and from heavy maintenance. We typically use reserve fo's for this as well as they are essentially free labor.

There are approximately 35 of these pilots. They are over 65 obviously only fly empty repos

They need to be removed immediately from our cockpits

 

[Blue Dude]

There are approximately 35 of these pilots. They are over 65 obviously only fly empty repos

They need to be removed immediately from our cockpits

No argument there, but there are only about a dozen of them currently. It doesn't make it right, but there's not a large cadre of repo pilots.

 

[citabriapilot]

Rode on Virgin America today and he said he was recently contacted and offered $1,000 to ferry an Allegiant Airbus...

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Rode on Virgin America today and he said he was recently contacted and offered $1,000 to ferry an Allegiant Airbus...

Did he say how ALGT got his info? Did he say he was gonna do it? I work for Virgin and can try to actively discourage this through the ranks. There is a subset of pilots here who frankly are the types who would do something like this and not only not think twice about it but actually boast about it. (One is a LCA who is not liked here/former freedom air ground-floorer/and whose son is a current ALGT captain. He is known for doing redeye turn line checks for extra $)

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

Did he say how ALGT got his info? Did he say he was gonna do it? I work for Virgin and can try to actively discourage this through the ranks. There is a subset of pilots here who frankly are the types who would do something like this and not only not think twice about it but actually boast about it. (One is a LCA who is not liked here/former freedom air ground-floorer/and whose son is a current ALGT captain. He is known for doing redeye turn line checks for extra $)

Every airline has these prostitutes who will trade their mothers for an 8hr block open trip. Due to the horrendous pay scale here at Allegiant, we seem to have more than our fair share. Many of these guys are very senior and have never really experienced the bottom 2/3 of the seniority list for any appreciable length of time. We have one 757 captain who brags to his starving FO's about letting his house go (which he could definitely afford), how great it is to be so senior, and how much money he makes by picking up open time. The only consolation about an airline going out of business is to see toolbags like this end up on the street.

 

[BRA]

shots fired!

 

[BentOver]

Every airline has these prostitutes who will trade their mothers for an 8hr block open trip. Due to the horrendous pay scale here at Allegiant, we seem to have more than our fair share. Many of these guys are very senior and have never really experienced the bottom 2/3 of the seniority list for any appreciable length of time. We have one 757 captain who brags to his starving FO's about letting his house go (which he could definitely afford), how great it is to be so senior, and how much money he makes by picking up open time. The only consolation about an airline going out of business is to see toolbags like this end up on the street.

Has anyone informed him that he likely makes barely more than a 75/76 FO at most other companies?

 

[linepilot]

Pilot whoores who do this kind of thing while real pilots are trying to achieve real progress for their families should be crucified.

No protection.

You want to go out and whore yourself then be prepared to get kicked to the curb by your fellow pilots and your union.

Protecting guys like this should be out of the question.