If Delta dies, Skywest = ?

[ASADriver]

Also, I wasn't here then, but I've heard that ASA operated Comair airplanes on Comair routes during that strike. I don't know if it's true, but that has been going around.

We did operate CMR aircraft, and we flew CMR passengers. We did not operate CMR routes. The fact is, during the CMR strike, ASA operated CMR aircraft with CMR passengers.

 

[General Lee]

CMR went on strike and DAL didn't stop flying. Why should we stop flying if Delta goes on strike? Rember, they said we are separate. They said there wasn't operational integration. They made their bed, now they can sleep in it.

As for the "scab list", don't you find it just a tad ironic that it was an Eastern scab who posted the three ASA MEC resolutions, regarding the strike vote and no confidence vote, on the ALPA board? He is an ALPA committee chairman and he crossed a real line. How about the CAL MEC Chairman, he is an Eastern scab also. Save me the ALPA BS - I have had my fill!

I will fly any aircraft that is operated by ASA during any DAL strike - we a separate and they don't give a darn about me.

I never said you should stop flying your own flying, just not pick up ours. That is the difference. We never picked up or covered any of Comair's actually flying.

Regardless, if we do strike, you won't last long. I hope it doesn't happen, but that really is reality. Your airline feeds ours. That's the way it goes. Let's hope it doesn't happen.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ASADriver]

I never said you should stop flying your own flying, just not pick up ours. That is the difference. We never picked up or covered any of Comair's actually flying.

Regardless, if we do strike, you won't last long. I hope it doesn't happen, but that really is reality. Your airline feeds ours. That's the way it goes. Let's hope it doesn't happen.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Everything we fly is OUR flying. I will fly whatever schedule I am handed. I hope DAL doesn't go down, but if it does I will take solace in the fact that you will take a larger hit than I will. I don't owe you a thing, I don't owe ALPA a thing. Good luck, your going to need it.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Everything we fly is OUR flying. I will fly whatever schedule I am handed. I hope DAL doesn't go down, but if it does I will take solace in the fact that you will take a larger hit than I will. I don't owe you a thing, I don't owe ALPA a thing. Good luck, your going to need it.

Scab or idiot.... I'm not sure which term applies more.

 

[ASADriver]

Scab or idiot.... I'm not sure which term applies more.

Why? Because ALPA says so? We are separate airlines. ASA won't be on strike - Delta will be. Are you going to refuse to fly ASA aircraft. If you do, you lose your job and ALPA will do nothing to help you. Maybe you are the idiot. By the way, there are over 1000 scabs that are full fledged ALPA members in GOOD STANDING, including ALPA officers and committee chairmen. ALPA is greek for hypocrite.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

No, I won't refuse to fly ASA aircraft. What I will do is refuse to fly ASA aircraft that are deployed on Delta routes in the event of a strike. Not only is that being a scab, it's being a $hitty human being. So, no, I won't fly "any schedule that is handed to me". You sir lack integrity.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Everything we fly is OUR flying. I will fly whatever schedule I am handed. I hope DAL doesn't go down, but if it does I will take solace in the fact that you will take a larger hit than I will. I don't owe you a thing, I don't owe ALPA a thing. Good luck, your going to need it.

If Delta goes down you will both take a 100% paycut. If i were you i would hope for some luck to.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Flying routes

ASA will not fly another striking carriers routes. As far as Comair routes during the strike, DAL rearranged the schedules, thereby createing "New" routes (Shell game). It was something the Big D could do since they controlled the routing structure.

If DAL goes on strike, there is no way for DAL MGT to redo the routes to cover all of the system. Thereby we (ASA) will not fly struck work. Should be reduced, if not all together go away.

It is a lose lose situation for everyone involved. If DALPA and ASA threaten to strike, both MGT's would SH*T. Grinchstien might not care if DAL goes down the tubes, hell he'll sell the assest off and make himself some chance. Jerry Atkin, however would cut BL and ALL ASA VP's.

 

[General Lee]

Everything we fly is OUR flying. I will fly whatever schedule I am handed. I hope DAL doesn't go down, but if it does I will take solace in the fact that you will take a larger hit than I will. I don't owe you a thing, I don't owe ALPA a thing. Good luck, your going to need it.

You better hope we don't strike, and I have a feeling I'll be fine regardless. And, you don't owe me krap, and I don't owe you squat. Keep those figers and toes crossed that we come up with an agreement.........


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

ASA will not fly another striking carriers routes. As far as Comair routes during the strike, DAL rearranged the schedules, thereby createing "New" routes (Shell game). It was something the Big D could do since they controlled the routing structure.

If DAL goes on strike, there is no way for DAL MGT to redo the routes to cover all of the system. Thereby we (ASA) will not fly struck work. Should be reduced, if not all together go away.

It is a lose lose situation for everyone involved. If DALPA and ASA threaten to strike, both MGT's would SH*T. Grinchstien might not care if DAL goes down the tubes, hell he'll sell the assest off and make himself some chance. Jerry Atkin, however would cut BL and ALL ASA VP's.

We did not add any flights on any of their own routes, and routes that we both shared were not added to, except once when they (DL) decided to replace an MD88 with a 757. Our ALPA guys protested that, and overall Delta lost over $1 billion. I would say the strike made an impression on Delta.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[blackbox]

I cant see ASA/Comair/skywest/etc..... keep flying if DAL pilots strike. Comair feeds Delta, not the other way around. So DALPA striking is very different. If they walk and I worked for ASA/Comair etc... I wouldnt worry about who is crossing picket lines, because there would be no work. the only thing you would be crossing is the street to the unemployment line. I am not trying to sound like a D*ck, but i feel you guys are bickering back and forth about a non-issue.

DAL is the head and the regionals are the body. if you cut of the head.....what are the regionals gonna feed? Each other? puh-lease

Haven't RJs recently been found to be too expensive to operate. Thats why they were on the "endangered species list"? and doesnt DAL pay a fee per departure? They would lose money by paying for 50 seats, when it only 35 seats are filled. they cant make their money back when the pax get on a mainline flight because there isnt one.

did i make any sense? my writing skills are horrible....Good luck to everyone, i 've got friends at ASA, delta, and SKywest I would hate to see anything happen to them.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Wow, that really would excite me! NOT. I guess that would mean I would lose my job too in the process. I can't wait for that. But, there are some things that NEED to be worked out, and that is what negotiations are for. No GRAB BAG. The pilots that "remembered the old Delta days" are now GONE. We are a younger group with more options. Hopefully things will work out, but if they don't, everyone will be hurting. I hope it doesn't get to that point, but it might.


And SSDD, I love the part about your SkyWest flights still operating their current DCI flights. To feed what? How many people want to go from SLC to Great Falls? That is ridiculous. Most of those connections go onto CVG, ATL or Hawaii. You might fill St George to SLC, but that is about it. Have fun with that. And, I bet the wheels are turning in St George, asking why they added more exposure to DL by purchasing ASA. It would take years to cover any mainline flying that went away, unless you already had mainline planes, and Southwest does. (47 new 737-700s next year alone) The big losers would be the small communities that never get service again, especially from any LCC. Let's hope the talks resume soon..... Stay tuned.....



Bye Bye--General Lee

Again the Generaltool strikes with his/her generaltoolcentric view of the world. The majority of our flights originate from SLC and as everyone knows DAL is the only airline that operates from said airport. To connect to the majority of the smaller cities we service as a DCI carrier there are a multitude of other options to get to SLC. Will SKYW reduce schedules,yup, more than likely it will suck for us, more for the DAL guys and gals. Gentool again swings and misses, SKYW has been around for along time and has made many shrewd moves.
PBR

 

[Tomct]

PBR...I would be VERY careful in what you are thinking! If Big D goes down, NO ONE will be immune! It is going to wipe out a whole bunch of carriers!

ASADVR...Dude, you need to go get a different job! Because you are going to be very freaked out when WE vote to strike!! You are far to jaded to continue to fly! Good Luck with YOUR attitude!

 

[FlyComAirJets]

If the Delta pilots go on strike, we all lose our jobs permenantly (including them). SO STOP POKING THEM IN THE EYE, already. Certainly you know that, apparently management does not. Have a Happy Non-specific Religion Thanksgiving.

 

[General Lee]

PBR,

SkyWest will have a VERY hard time staying out of Chap 11 if we go on strike. Over half of the flying will stop, and you are exposed even more thanks to buying ASA. I don't want that to happen, and hopefully an agreement will be reached. I am not stating this to get anyone mad, just stating a harsh reality. Keep those fingers crossed. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.


Bye Bye--General Lee